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8 years 5 months ago #1118 by Ozone
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Clark found polycystic kidneys to be due to gastrothylax parasites....but no one else has corroborated this. Can't sleep very well here..after second dose of high sulphur!! :-)) In fact DrClark herself died from spinal complications from an old back injury....ignoring the nervous system cost her her life..genius that she was.
This should keep you entertained.... vimeo.com/54189727

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8 years 5 months ago #1119 by Ozone
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Like Andrew says..we should question everything. When I started research into health I focused on sleep quite a bit. Using Qlink pendants improved my whole families sleep. Then it sort of fizzled. Then earthing improved it big time. Then fizzled. Then mitigating dirty electricity helped...filters all over the house. Then fizzled. Then cleanses and zapping again improved it. Then EarthPulse system caused an interesting non natural feel to the sleep....almost like when I started IBT. Like not sleeping deep enough...or like my body was working overnight instead of resting. The common thread here is that to FEEL all these effects means it has a neurological effect!!! Otherwise I wouldn't have felt much, would I? So where I am now....wanting more understanding before I stick my neck out in a very dangerous AIDS environment here, I have to conclude that neurological effects are initially superior for correcting illness....except with AIDS it might just be circulatory....the immune system being so close to the lymph. We will see. The way I study is I am interested in failures more than successes....they teach me more. So all the few cases of IBT not fixing something long term need me to dissect them....and so far the few I have heard about can be explained by neurological neglect. Meaning IBT is pristine...but if your back is too bent it might not fix you. For me for now...it all starts to make sense now...especially the occasional patient I had that didn't respond to anything we tried. If only I knew then what I know now.

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8 years 5 months ago #1120 by Ozone
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Here is the clip on YouTube...

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8 years 5 months ago #1121 by Ozone
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PS. I forgot...geopathic stress helped sleep BIG TIME. It can only be neurological, again. Even orgonite next to the bedside...another capacitor effect affecting local EMF...neurological. Adios.

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8 years 5 months ago #1123 by Andrew
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This is interesting Paul, I must admit I have not heard of it before but it does make a great deal of sense.
Encapsulated pathogens where the immune system responded, becoming tumours. This sounds exactly the same as the emergence of boils and warts. I have heard of tumours erupting and causing septicaemia, which often kills the patient. So your idea appears to fit nicely. It also suggests Lugol's iodine may well be on the right track. jeffreydachmd.com/iodine-treats-breast-cancer/

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8 years 5 months ago #1124 by Andrew
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I am aware of people stating that they have received no perceived improvements from IBT and I really struggle with this. Having checked back and asked questions as to humidity, drying washing on raqdiators inside the home, having a bedroom on a lower floor, where humidity is higher, working ion a high humidity environment, living in a river valley or low level coastal region for example and many times I have identified a link.

High humidity leads to reduced circulation because we cannot exhale more water than we inhale. Therefore we cannot alter the density of the blood, lymph and csf fluids. In this case the inclined bed, while fairing better will not be having a significant affect on the body, according to this theory that is.

I also found that many of these people expected miracles in a month or so and many quit after a few days when they realised that sleeping inclined does something and it scared them.

Then there are those that say I raised my bed on blocks feet up as you asked :) :silly:

And those that spend most of the day sitting, (wheelchair, pilot, cab, van, lorry driver etc etc. ,) which undoes the good that IBT brings.

Couples is another problem, one likes IBT the other hates the idea of losing control. Trust me on this one.

Also there are people that sleep away from home frequently and sleep flat. This situation would bring about aches and pains as the body and it's circulation struggle to find equilibrium.

And of course there are those who want to cast doubt upon IBT's credibility, and we have seen this in the other forums. One guy in particular with a spinal cord injury posted an account of his experience using IBT, mocking everything. This idiot had previously stated that he would never try IBT. So aside from psychoanalysis, which itself is suspect, we have to accept that people will respond in unexpected ways.

But one thing I am certain of is that those flat beds are not the answer!

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8 years 5 months ago - 8 years 5 months ago #1126 by Ozone
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In fact I have been observing myself so carefully I am in danger of NOT believing some effects are from IBT...but I am sure they are...even where you were not sure. The bugs haven't changed here in years....our health has been consistent...then suddenly the fifth month there is a bit of drama. Today everyone's better. I earthed my son overnight which he hasn't been doing...back to himself in the morning. Do you know about NASAs Schumann resonance stuff?
On the other hand Andrew, why would they want to discredit IBT if it didn't lose them money....or gain you money...or make them seem smarter?? Don't underestimate the psychoanalysis....what you call couples losing control....that's what it is!!!! Losing control of? Keeping the other dependent on them...sick? I admit for unfamiliar folks it's a complex area.....I have read quite a lot of those old posts...raw food chaps etc...even that chap Al I think it was....my analyses says you guys just didn't communicate properly that's it. Like regular human beings wars start because people do not comm effectively...people become emotional, think they are being challenged or made to feel stupid, and before you know it ..chaos. I have seen this at the highest government leadership level and it is a sad sad part of our civilization.
The main reason why science rejects anecdotal evidence is exactly that....people tend to only report what they think is appropriate..so won't report failures for instance. Also, the collector biases against reports that don't fit with the theory. So..when people say they feel nothing...either they lie or are telling the truth. If they are telling the truth then it's either they feel nothing when there is something....or they actually feel nothing. Then perhaps their spinal and nervous health is good and the incline has little perceived benefit. If we dismiss them we re scientifically shooting ourselves in the foot mate. Like I say I have learnt ten times more from what didn't fit with my theories than my initial hypothesis. Note nowhere are the circulatory benefits of IBT belittled ..I am actually increasing its power and benefit!!! But like I have said...twenty years is a long time, people like Paul and me are here to shake you and IBT up a bit...hopefully before somehow it gets accepted. I have been jailed before for trivial issues....so I have to be a bit cautious with AiDS people.....they are generally a no go for alternative healers, being controlled by Harvard US people.
Of course I reserve the right to be totally and utterly mistaken and wrong with every single point I have raised in this forum....my strongest point I think, and something that keeps me much less stressed than I would be...and keeps my mind open to learn always. Alas...only three people posting gets a bit unusual...I will take a break for a bit as I delve into real life. Later.
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8 years 5 months ago #1128 by Andrew
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Yes, it is frustrating that people lurking in the background don't join in the conversations.
Good point on not reporting failures. We have 1695 members in the Facebook group. My son said converting FB users to forum users is not happening and that this forum needs to be linked to other forums in posts to bring people in who would like to engage and learn more.
One high profile article in a magazine or newspaper would liven things up I think.
My Doctor advises his patients to use IBT. I asked him if he has been getting reports back? His reply; "Almost everyone I advise to use IBT don't report back to me, but I do notice they no longer come in to the surgery or report further health problems".
Now this could be that they think he is bonkers and not worth visiting or it could be that their health has taken a turn for the better following his advice.

Your probably right about communicating properly, I have failed miserably at it :)

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8 years 5 months ago #1129 by Ozone
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You know just watched a program on our national TV covering a high profile meeting of doctors, ministers of health, talking about SCI...spinal cord injuries they call it....thought of you then. What nonsense they talk. Almost too much to bear. I am building a database in my mind...when I am through I will be a formidable opponent to any doctor that tries to debate me on IBT, and I have a few friends that are medics already who are wary of discussing even medical stuff with me. That's why I challenge everyone, especially people with new stuff that I have just discovered...many don't hold out that well...don't worry you are doing fine so far. Funny about your doctor....good man though. One of my junior pilots told me a South African doctor told him to raise his bed for his reflux once...didn't say by how much or for how long though. When I asked him why he stopped he couldn't really answer...when I said did it help he said yes. We will get there eventually.
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