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Bergman explains how inflammation is actually a good sign because it means healing is taking place and the body is addressing the situation, but how do you truly differentiate between a pain which means healing is happening, and a pain because there is a detrimental cause? I hope I am explaining myself correctly here.

As I understand it pain is natures way of telling you to be careful with a certain area, so that it can heal easier via the inflammatory process, but what if you were accidentally causing damage in the first place, and as the bodies response is to constantly inflame and send pain messages to that area, you really don't know if the pain is a good sign or a bad sign.

I say this because a few weeks ago my physio told me to stretch my chest in certain ways to eradicate a problem with my chest that he thinks is muscular/skeletal, and said that I need to go through a certain amount of pain - and more attacks - to heal. However, if he is wrong and my chest problem is a liver/gall bladder problem, then I am in fact potentially causing more damage, which sends more pain messages, and I am in a never ending cycle of damage-pain-inflammtion!

As I have had chest discomfort and attacks more since starting physio, I am suspecting I may be causing damage, and not healing.

If it is the liver, the good news is that even severe cirrhosis in a terminally ill alcoholic, exhibiting severe jaundice who was given 2 months life prognosis was turned around using IBT. Skin and eyes went clear and the guy was thinking clearer and contemplating giving up the drink. He kept this up for well over a year. He used to live on the streets but was taken in by a former nurse, who is now a good friend of ours. He made a nuisance of himself and after being warned he ended up back on the streets, drinking and sleeping rough and no doubt sleeping flat on a hard cold surface. He eventually died when his liver completely failed. His name was Paul also. Without doubt had he have kept to IBT and curbed his drinking habit, he would have made a full recovery.

Have a cirrhosis patient from 4 years ago...still going strong! Knowing whether pain is good pain or bad pain is not easy....I think the main issue is the ORIGIN of the problem...if that's not addressed then the inflammation becomes CHRONIC...which isn't a good healing response. Earthing removes a lot of inflammation btw. IBT slowly corrects ALL body processes, and we may find that inflammatory pain isn't really necessary. I have already seen IBT remove a lot of so called Herxheimer issues. Ozone ear insufflation being a case in point. On IBT there are no painful ear discharges anymore after insufflation....meaning now the body works correctly so everything else will work as it should including therapies!!
With IBT it's just a matter of time. Of course sometimes there may be a lump, or blockage, or tomour, or injury, or back subluxation....and we may need to help IBT....I could easily increase my success rate tenfold with IBT I reckon, as everyone needs to be on it.
Many times there also is a chronic infection....especially lungs. Ascaris, Paragonimus, etc..many parasites love the lungs. Of course the body immune system should remove them....but we usually find them in people with issues...like almost 100 percent of asthma patients have an Ascaris infestation. In ozone therapy we prescribe aethezol or ozol inhalation....kills the parasites quite nicely. Then further therapies follow. Now I will just recommend IBT and see what happens.

Now why would a man taken in by a kind lady and saved from a horrible death...resort back to suicidal behavior even after being warned?? I have seen lots of such. Emotional plague answered it for me sufficiently. Another physiological illness...but this time bio emotional.

You are definitely correct with that emotional plague illness you talk about Ozone.

In fact you will both find Dr Gabor Mate a very interesting man. He talks about the same exact things you both mention, including the reasons for addictive behaviour patterns. I think at the very least EVERYONE who has kids or is wanting kids should listen to what Gabor Mate has to say.
I will post a link to one of his lectures at the bottom.

Thanks also for that interesting story Andrew about the alcoholic called Paul, lol, I don't think I have a liver cirrhosis problem though Its truly amazing to realise the power this IBT has when its healing things like that though!

Ozone, I find your linking those Ascaris infestations to asthma very good. Before I was initially diagnosed with Psoriasis, I had five different doctors diagnose me with five different diseases, and one thought I had roundworm!

I also found many links with psoriasis to asthma victims and also to viral infections including bacterial streptoccocus A infections that often went undetected, and this was the reason for the constant T-Cell attack on the various organs of the diseased body. I tried for ages to get my doctor test me for things like this, and apparently I don't have strep A! However, I think its entirely possible psoriasis is caused by something like this.

It never made any sense for me that the body would attack itself like it does in autoimmune diseases. I always thought there must be something the body has detected and is trying to deal with. I still do believe this is the case, even in cases of cancer. In fact it would not surprise me at all if it was found that the underlying cause for most all chronic diseases will probably come down to an infection of some kind.

When I found out that the T-cells which attack the skin in psoriasis were created in the thymus, I immediately connected my chest, thyroid and psoriasis problems with a thymus problem, until I learned that the thymus is only active in children, and supposedly atrophies in adults, and is supposedly no longer a functioning organ for adults.

Of course, no doubt it will be proved that the thymus is probably way more active in adults than we currently believe, much like the spleen is essential to good health, even though we previously thought of it as an unused organ, when in reality the spleen is essential to good health.

Very sorry to hear about your dog Andrew, I lost mine a few months ago and he is a huge miss...

Here is a lecture with Dr Gabor Mate for you Ozone.

Thanks.....will watch him now. Should be interesting. You are totally correct on your deductions btw....there is always a chronic infection...the body doesn't attack itself for nothing. The thymus is still active in most adults...in fact HIV is an infection of the thymus with the larvae of the Fasciolopsis parasite...which hosts HIV virus. Viruses are invariable hosted by bacteria and parasites...being much smaller. Like measles and mumps sit inside Ascaris for example. Bacteria are also hosted by parasites!! Viruses can be switched on and off in the body. But the key issue is the toxicity that allows the infections to be chronic.....hindering immunity. Like benzene and other solvents contaminate the thymus in AIDS patients....methanol in diabetes patients etc. Mercury, other metals, nickel causes allergies, south polarisation, etc...which oxidises good nutrition, etc.
I am getting strange little issues now...left leg slightly sore....identical mirror image rash on the leg quadriceps ...like 3 inches...this can only be a dermatome...nerve root repair.!! Middle back aching but in a pleasant way now!! I realize the military fitness had a cost....damaged back!! Also note there isn't always pain in damaged nerves. I am totally confident that IBT will take me back to superman health. In fact over the weekend found myself having to sprint for a hundred yards....then realised that I wasn't even breathing hard!! How exciting!! Usually I would be huffing and puffing after such action.

The emotional shutdown mentioned by doctor Mate ..Reich called 'armouring'. The key issue from Reichs work being that it becomes physiological...I.e. Lodged in the tissues, especially fascia, then it's chronic. Then it determines ones 'character'...which is wrongfully deemed permanent. Then the person becomes severely uncomfortable and defensive if anything attempts to loosen that lock...or change their character so to speak. Hence strange behaviour from people. Interesting presentation though...slight forward neck carriage in the doctor, as Bergman would diagnose.

Really interesting stuff there. I just found something on the thymus being active in adults too...even the doctor dismissed my thymus idea but it may well be as you say after all...
jem.rupress.org/content/190/4/479.full

Also here... www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15019273
Its a pubmed study from 10 years ago! Basically says the thymus does indeed "reactivate" when needed again especially with an infectious disease!

As t-cells are extremely active in psoriasis, I now realise the thymus is incredibly important area of study, and hopefully, the new t-cells the thymus is retraining is being used to ERADICATE psoriasis...You also mentioned this thymus activity about aids in another thread, but I stupidly ignored it thinking it was no longer active lol...