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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #960 by Ozone
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Herxheimer reactions....why we sometimes get sicker before getting better. It appears IBT also induces such...making it a valid therapy. But people have to understand it...otherwise they can run away from the therapy due to discomfort. My sciatica patient told me she felt a dread and terror going to bed after two weeks and reduced the inclined to 2 inches. Hasn't gotten back to 6 inches...says the pain is unbearable. Will have to put her on the inverter for short periods....maybe ozone injection into somewhere near the back. Then hopefully back to incline. Like all effective healing modalities....one of the main problems is the isolation of each method away from the bulk of medical knowledge. I can only imagine where we would be now if IBT had been embraced by mainstream medicine and pushed properly into the hospitals.

chronicillnessrecovery.org/index.php?opt...&view=article&id=161
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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 5 months ago #961 by Paul
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I had herxheimer reactions last year on my many detox methods using all sorts of things like detoxified iodine, high dosage vitamin C at 15grams daily, organic sulphur etc but I never guessed for a second I would have anything like this effect with IBT, until just now reading your post.
It may even not be related but I have had a nagging ache just behind my right shoulder in upper trapezius area, and find myself often reaching my left hand over my right shoulder to press into that area to relieve it. Again, it may not be a detox effect at all as I have been doing this for long enough by now to surely get over that...any thoughts Ozone?
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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #963 by Ozone
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There is an attachment in the above article suggesting that MS appeared in previous malaria areas....interestingly DrClark found sub clinical malaria in almost all terminal cancer patients....and they even responded positively to quinones.! DrKlinghardt says there always is chronic infections...always. Point being illness is much more complicated then we would like. Enhancing the immune system with something like IBT can have all sorts of reactions that help the body. I have always regarded deep pain in any upper shoulder area as a form of bursitis that is translated from the liver spasming due to intrahepatic stone blockage. Dozens of patients I have had have totally eradicated the pain by doing DrClark style liver cleanses. Until recently I could never work out WHY we keep forming intrahepatic stones...now I have a clue...sleeping flat!! You can be positive your liver needs a flush...even in ozone therapy we absolutely insist ..otherwise chances of success are reduced. Now with IBT I reckon everything will work faster.
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8 years 6 months ago #966 by Paul
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I only started having this around 3 weeks ago and as you know I have been doing IBT for many months now.
I have indeed tried a liver cleanse around 5 years ago when I first suspected that may be the cause of my chest/rib problems, and I did release many many many balls of fat that did indeed look like typical pictures of gall-stones. However, its definitely NOT an experience I would care to try again. The amount of tablespoons of magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts to layman) that I ingested made it a terrible experience, in that the next day I was literally on the toilet 20+hours, and ended up a really painful "pooping" experience.
After my "cleanse" I don't recall it providing relief, but I didn't have a health diary back then so cannot state what it did do for me. I have thought of trying that again but I would have to be truly desperate to try that again.
I am also not truly convinced myself that they are truly gall-stones, and even Dr Richard Massey on Patrick Timpones show states he is uncomfortable with the idea that anything that big (mine were quarter inch diameter biggest) could physically come out those liver ducts.
Regarding infections yes that is something good too, and in fact I came across many cases I read about that Strep A infections became full-blown Psoriasis.

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8 years 6 months ago #968 by Ozone
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I have done over a hundred since 2003...and there are definitely gallstones that come out. One has to prepare carefully for a cleanse, then the discomfort is minimal...especially sufficient anti parasite herbs. But yes we are all different. But they didn't help my chronic tonsillitis and lymph stagnation. Even intense ozone including IV, didn't achieve much...but then I wasn't really that sick. I am hopeful IBT is my ultimate cure. Full stop.

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8 years 6 months ago #973 by Paul
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I suspect I didn't prepare properly for a liver cleanse and took it too lightly. I remember drinking lots of apple juice 2 weeks prior, but not a thing with herbs at all. I just remember the next day being far to violent on my poor bottom lol. I spent the entire day every 10 minutes rushing to the toilet and many times filling my pants with a simple fart! But what at first was amusing for me became torture after a few hours.
I actually kept some of my soft stones that I ejected in the freezer for many months, with the idea of getting them analyzed, but never got around to it. My mind is not truly made up on liver cleanses, but its not something I even thought about until you raised the subject, so maybe there has been good progress since I last tried.

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8 years 6 months ago #975 by Paul
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I think IBT will indeed be the answer for you my friend especially with improving lymph stagnation...this is what I am thinking is a major reason IBT works so well, because like I said in another thread a lot of things that IBT seems to help with is similar to how organic sulphur helps, and Patrick McGean often says how the lymph is a major area where sulphur is fantastic for...which is why I think doing IBT and other modalities would be more than likely fantastic than just doing IBT alone.
You mentioned you have patients, do you mind if I ask what you specialize in?

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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #976 by Ozone
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Nowadays I do mainly water dowsing and geopathic stress and EMF surveys. Self trained naturopath...current pilot. Ex AirForce major...and ex prospecting geologist. After all that I understand now better than ever that the healer cannot heal anyone...only they can heal themselves. You? You sound very well read in health.
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8 years 6 months ago #978 by Ozone
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Here is a patient of mine...he has been cancer free for several years now..from Level3. Dedicated I think Chapter 33 to me.
www.goodreads.com/book/show/21268966-diary-of-a-cancer-survivor

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