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0:00:00.130,0:00:04.060 So, some, I don't even know how long ago it was. Ill ask Andrew, 0:00:04.060,0:00:08.720 Andrew Fletcher was on and he talked about Inclined Bed Therapy. 0:00:08.720,0:00:14.120 This is our follow up show. So if you raised the head of your bed six inches Per Andrew, 0:00:14.120,0:00:19.789 why don't you email in or call in and tell us what your experience has been, good bad 0:00:19.789,0:00:23.749 or indifferent. We are not just trying to stack the deck here. So If you haven't felt 0:00:23.749,0:00:28.769 anything, that's ok. Call in or email in and let us know, we want 0:00:28.769,0:00:30.609 to know. That's what this show is about we are doing 0:00:30.609,0:00:35.020 a little follow up and I want to learn a little bit more about why this is what it is with 0:00:35.020,0:00:37.320 Andrew Fletcher Andrew, where do you live? 0:00:37.320,0:00:43.160 I live in Paignton in Devon. I'm sorry? 0:00:43.160,0:00:46.030 Paignton in Devon In Devon, which is in England Right? 0:00:46.030,0:00:50.250 In England yes. Good afternoon to you and good morning here. 0:00:50.250,0:00:55.010 How are you? I'm very good thank you Patrick and good morning 0:00:55.010,0:00:57.610 to you aswell. Yep 0:00:57.610,0:01:04.610 Devon where is that in relation to say London? It's er, London is on the East coast and Devon 0:01:04.859,0:01:09.270 is on the South West coast Hmm Hm Huh 0:01:09.270,0:01:11.619 Is it raining there like it usually does in England? 0:01:11.619,0:01:17.159 No Beautiful sunny day Really? Have you lived there all your life? 0:01:17.159,0:01:21.619 No we have been down here 26 years now, we are refugees from the Midlands 0:01:21.619,0:01:26.889 Huh Huh And er, in a couple of days, I think tomorrow, 0:01:26.889,0:01:30.789 Scotland is voting on in or out, what do you think? 0:01:30.789,0:01:37.789 Erm, Well, I think Scotland could well go alone, Yeah I don't see any problems with 0:01:40.299,0:01:45.740 you know other countries have done this so I don't really see any problems with Scotland 0:01:45.740,0:01:48.799 doing the same. Hm Hm If Queen mum will let them out. 0:01:48.799,0:01:54.549 Unless they rig the vote, I don't think she will have much of a say in it. 0:01:54.549,0:01:59.209 You know there are people who say if voting really mattered they would have outlawed it 0:01:59.209,0:02:05.159 so we will just have to see it's you know it's not, erm don't get me started, it's who 0:02:05.159,0:02:12.060 counts the votes right? So Andrew when were you on here last? 0:02:12.060,0:02:17.070 It's been three months almost. Has it really? 0:02:17.070,0:02:20.190 Yes. Well I unlined my bed about two weeks after 0:02:20.190,0:02:25.330 our show, six inches and I have to tell you I'm feeling better and better and better and 0:02:25.330,0:02:30.510 of course I do a lot of things so I can't say to you honestly well this has really done 0:02:30.510,0:02:37.510 this or this has really done that, cus I do a lot of crazy stuff, You know me I'm always 0:02:37.760,0:02:42.550 trying something different, but I'm felling better and better every day, I don't know 0:02:42.550,0:02:48.120 if I can attribute that to inclining my bed or not. 0:02:48.120,0:02:52.290 Tell folks the basic premise of this who didn't here your first show? 0:02:52.290,0:02:59.290 It's well I won't go into the full theory on trees just how it applies to the body would 0:03:01.030,0:03:03.390 probably suffice for today. Okay. 0:03:03.390,0:03:09.210 If anyone needs to see the full explanation, they have the other interview. 0:03:09.210,0:03:15.230 There is a density change in the blood. The literature states that gravity doesn't play 0:03:15.230,0:03:19.620 a role in circulation because it acts equally on the blood flowing down as it does on the 0:03:19.620,0:03:22.650 blood returning. So therefore can't play a role 0:03:22.650,0:03:28.790 What the scientists and the medical people have forgotten to take into account is that 0:03:28.790,0:03:34.150 when we evaporate water from our lungs, the blood that supplies the fluid to the lungs 0:03:34.150,0:03:39.170 becomes denser as a result of shedding the water, because we are evaporating pure water 0:03:39.170,0:03:45.770 from a liquid that contains dissolved solids, dissolved minerals, sugars, metals, so it 0:03:45.770,0:03:50.990 is impossible to evaporate that water without changing the density of that blood. That blood 0:03:50.990,0:03:57.990 then passes through the heart, enters the main artery and then is dragged down by gravity 0:03:58.930,0:04:04.600 so gravity. If we can imagine, for every breath we take is the equivalent of placing a pinch 0:04:04.600,0:04:08.640 of salt in the arterial blood at the top of the arterial tree, 0:04:08.640,0:04:11.310 Really? so if we are the right way round according 0:04:11.310,0:04:16.310 to gravity, I.E. standing up and sometimes sitting, if we are sitting correctly, although 0:04:16.310,0:04:22.560 you can sit incorrectly which can affect circulation, I.E. wheel chair posture, if you are sitting 0:04:22.560,0:04:27.720 with your knees slightly lower than your seat or level with your seat then gravity can assist 0:04:27.720,0:04:33.240 the circulation by dragging on those tiny density changes drawing the blood down to 0:04:33.240,0:04:38.070 the kidneys and the kidneys filter out the blood as it passes through the kidneys and 0:04:38.070,0:04:43.150 then we excrete the spent salts in our urine so the blood that passes through the kidneys 0:04:43.150,0:04:48.020 becomes less dense, which means the upward flowing blood is always less dense than the 0:04:48.020,0:04:50.130 downward flowing blood. Okay 0:04:50.130,0:04:57.130 Aright and then how does this relate to this relate then to raising your head? 0:04:57.620,0:05:03.000 Well if we raise the head end of the bed, then we can have gravity assisting the circulation 0:05:03.000,0:05:09.180 24 hours a day instead of being interrupted by up to eight hours or even longer in some 0:05:09.180,0:05:15.040 cases with horizontal bed rest. If all of the vessels in the body are placed 0:05:15.040,0:05:22.040 along a mattress that is flat, then gravity is acting perpendicular to those vessels, 0:05:22.770,0:05:28.370 so it is still applying a force to those salts and minerals in the blood, but now it is acting 0:05:28.370,0:05:34.650 as a brake, it is not assisting those salts to migrate through the vessels, it's actually 0:05:34.650,0:05:41.650 pushing them down towards the mattress. That is causing a slowing down of the circulation. 0:05:42.550,0:05:47.060 Yes we have a heart, but what we are talking about here is something that gives that little 0:05:47.060,0:05:54.060 extra you know to the circulation. And I believe that, well I have shown that 0:05:55.980,0:06:02.980 it has a profound affect on our circulation. Even in cases of gangrene, cases of leg ulcers, 0:06:05.290,0:06:12.290 my Father had 3 varicose ulcers and he had had them for 25 years and they did heal up. 0:06:12.900,0:06:14.820 When he inclined his bed? Yes 0:06:14.820,0:06:21.820 I'll be darned So it's helping the whole system work at night 0:06:23.000,0:06:27.660 with circulation without extra strain on the heart? 0:06:27.660,0:06:33.240 Yes, it actually slows the heart rate down by 10 to 12 beats per minute. 0:06:33.240,0:06:38.060 Which is good. And it slows the respiration rate by 4 to 0:06:38.060,0:06:41.370 five breaths per minute. Now the reason it slows down the respiration 0:06:41.370,0:06:48.370 rate is because the lungs inflate more, so if they are inflating longer and then deflating 0:06:48.620,0:06:54.080 longer, then the lungs do not have to inflate as many times. 0:06:54.080,0:06:57.600 Hmmm hmm And the same with the heart rate, I believe 0:06:57.600,0:07:01.590 is that the heart stroke is actually improved on the sloping bed. 0:07:01.590,0:07:08.590 Ohh, heart stroke in other words, the force, erm how would you explain that? 0:07:08.680,0:07:15.680 Well, it's the erm, well like all pumps it inflates the same as the lungs with the blood 0:07:20.750,0:07:27.750 to a greater extent and forces the blood out to a greater extent, so that extra swelling 0:07:28.680,0:07:35.680 of the heart and contracting of the heart takes a little longer, so over the course 0:07:36.520,0:07:43.520 of a minute then it does have a significant reduction on the heart rate. 0:07:43.560,0:07:47.940 Hmm Hmm Do you think that would help to accommodate 0:07:47.940,0:07:54.940 a more restful nights sleep? Yes without a doubt, quite a few people who 0:07:56.340,0:08:03.340 have sleep problems, I.E. erm night time paralysis, erm, you know they have reported phenomenal 0:08:09.270,0:08:13.460 benefits in sleep pattern Hmm hmm Andrew Fletcher is with us, if you 0:08:13.460,0:08:17.770 have inclined your bed after the last show, email us and call us and let us know what 0:08:17.770,0:08:24.770 you felt. 8886636386 I know a lot of you did, I was getting emails in. Patrick at One Radio 0:08:25.150,0:08:29.669 Network Dot Com Well my sleep which I have an issue with from 0:08:29.669,0:08:36.669 many years has certainly improved in the last 3 months. There is just no doubt about that! 0:08:37.419,0:08:44.419 It's still not where it's gonna be, but it has improved. Of course I have done a lot 0:08:44.810,0:08:49.210 of different things. I would like to learn a little bit more about 0:08:49.210,0:08:55.610 this whole idea with the blood and the thickness and does it affect the blood in any way that 0:08:55.610,0:09:00.740 you know of that as far as all the ldl's and the thickness and the fibrin and all that 0:09:00.740,0:09:06.529 stuff do we know? Well, I would think that, just thinking about 0:09:06.529,0:09:12.850 it, if we increase the circulation and as we have just described, erm we have aligned 0:09:12.850,0:09:18.980 ourself so that the kidneys can function a little better, so that getting rid of toxins, 0:09:18.980,0:09:25.980 erm getting rid of spent salts and some waste from the blood, should be accomplished a lot 0:09:27.310,0:09:34.310 better with the bed on an angle and to test this, my wife and I, we measured the density 0:09:34.860,0:09:37.020 of our urine. Oh you did? 0:09:37.020,0:09:44.020 Yes we did and this is incredible Erm, we measured our urine density while we 0:09:45.339,0:09:51.560 were horizontal, we measured the urine density while we were in normal daily routine, walking 0:09:51.560,0:09:56.460 and sitting around and we measured the density of our urine while we were on an angle on 0:09:56.460,0:10:01.420 the inclined bed and then we measured the density while we were sleeping head down in 0:10:01.420,0:10:02.830 the opposite direction. Hmm Hmm 0:10:02.830,0:10:03.950 Really? Yeah I see 0:10:03.950,0:10:10.000 Yes, what we found was that IBT actually improved the density of the urine or increased the 0:10:10.000,0:10:15.779 density of the urine, over and above our normal daily activity. 0:10:15.779,0:10:20.649 And Horizontal bed rest decreased the density of urine, in other words the kidneys were 0:10:20.649,0:10:26.860 not functioning as well while we were on a horizontal bed and the icing on the cake 0:10:26.860,0:10:33.580 When we tilted the bed head down and feet up, apart from us both getting diarrhoea, 0:10:33.580,0:10:40.480 because this is a great slimming aid, which is definitely not advisable for anyone to 0:10:40.480,0:10:44.250 practice this. But the urine density went down to near water 0:10:44.250,0:10:44.500 readings. Really? 0:10:44.420,0:10:51.250 In other words no mineral salts and no waste was ending up in our urine. 0:10:51.250,0:10:56.640 So in theory or in practice or in science, the density the better, the higher the density 0:10:56.640,0:11:01.110 the better the meaning that the kidneys are filtering more efficiently? 0:11:01.110,0:11:07.589 Well, if the kidneys are filtering more efficiently that means that the density is actually lowered 0:11:07.589,0:11:13.220 more as the blood passes through the kidneys, so the blood before it enters the venous return 0:11:13.220,0:11:18.320 becomes less dense as a result of us being aligned correctly with gravity. 0:11:18.320,0:11:21.810 Oh so when you incline the head end the density goes down? 0:11:21.810,0:11:23.820 Yes Which is bad? 0:11:23.820,0:11:28.529 The density goes up in the arterial side and goes down in the venous return. 0:11:28.529,0:11:31.540 Ok I'm not sure I quite understand? 0:11:31.540,0:11:38.540 Well if you think about we are on an angle so our respiration rate has improved, as Dr 0:11:40.310,0:11:43.870 Masey reported our oxygen sats have gone up. Hmm Hmm 0:11:43.870,0:11:50.870 That was a fantastic interview So if we are increasing the load on the arterial 0:11:52.529,0:11:58.350 side we are increasing the density on the arterial side so the blood flowing down becomes 0:11:58.350,0:12:00.860 slightly denser as a result of tilting the bed 0:12:00.860,0:12:03.149 Ok In other words the salts are not being stored 0:12:03.149,0:12:10.149 in the blood as they would be if we were horizontal, therefore those salts are being filtered better 0:12:10.570,0:12:16.120 with the bed on an angle. I.E. the kidneys are able to remove more of the waste and the 0:12:16.120,0:12:21.600 salts into the urine, so the blood in the venous return actually becomes less dense 0:12:21.600,0:12:23.220 than if we were on a. Horizontal 0:12:23.220,0:12:26.730 Yes horizontal bed Yeah I got you. 0:12:26.730,0:12:29.120 Erm, 15 minutes after the hour with Andrew Fletcher. 0:12:29.120,0:12:33.339 Patrick at One Radio Network dot com Your experiences here. 0:12:33.339,0:12:38.019 I listened to an earlier show, writes Kimmmy with Andrew Fletcher and his Inclined Bed 0:12:38.019,0:12:41.070 Therapy I slept well, but I began waking most mornings 0:12:41.070,0:12:45.880 with aches and pains in the joints. Soreness in lower back and neck. This has been going 0:12:45.880,0:12:50.070 on for some weeks, so I got my husband to set up the bed head on six inches blocks of 0:12:50.070,0:12:57.040 wood from 27th June 2014. Immediately the next morning I woke up with no joint pain 0:12:57.040,0:13:02.510 at all and from 28th June to this day I have not been troubled by any pain after sleeping 0:13:02.510,0:13:07.250 in the inclined position and my husband is snoring less and not as noisily. Thanks to 0:13:07.250,0:13:11.470 Andrew and Patrick. Huh 0:13:11.470,0:13:16.339 Fantastic Ain't that great 0:13:16.339,0:13:22.220 So what do you explain what your research has shown why this is what this person has 0:13:22.220,0:13:27.860 experienced with joint pain? What's going on? 0:13:27.860,0:13:32.870 It's all about circulation. If we can increase the circulation 0:13:32.870,0:13:39.870 then we are actually reducing the damage caused to joints. We are assisting the repairs to 0:13:40.959,0:13:44.130 take care of what has happened during the day before. 0:13:44.130,0:13:51.130 If we are on a horizontal bed, well NASA in fact have shown that a horizontal bed even 0:13:56.010,0:14:03.010 over a 24 hour period can actually cause de-calcification, so that means that the joints can be de-calcified 0:14:05.300,0:14:09.200 as well. Well what we have seen is that the opposite 0:14:09.200,0:14:15.640 can be achieved, particularly one lady Ruby Tate, I think I mentioned her on the last 0:14:15.640,0:14:22.640 show, erm she had osteoporosis and she tilted her bed and Ruby couldn't she couldn't turn 0:14:25.329,0:14:31.269 herself around, she had no movement in the neck, which was also very painful. 0:14:31.269,0:14:37.100 Now osteoporosis is de-calcification of the bones, so the bones become brittle, a lot 0:14:37.100,0:14:44.100 of people experience this when they get older. And, well she tilted the bed and she was actually 0:14:44.329,0:14:51.329 featured on the local TV news, and she was able to turn her head, so the joints had had 0:14:51.959,0:14:57.079 some restorative affect from the bed. She could dress herself, put her bra on which 0:14:57.079,0:15:00.899 she couldn't do before, she was able to turn over in bed. 0:15:00.899,0:15:06.529 Again so it proves that the circulation is very important, well we know how important 0:15:06.529,0:15:13.529 the circulation is because if the circulation stops we are no longer a viable human being. 0:15:14.120,0:15:21.120 And so NASA, that's why they put their head up in an inclined position when they fly around 0:15:22.350,0:15:28.100 for thirty days. Erm, well there would be some benefit from 0:15:28.100,0:15:33.899 that because er a lot of people have the understanding that people in space are actually in zero 0:15:33.899,0:15:37.570 gravity but they are not. You know to get away from the influence of 0:15:37.570,0:15:41.680 the Earth, you would have to go beyond the moon, way beyond the moon, because the moon 0:15:41.680,0:15:48.680 influences the Earth's tides so the earth, is you know, erm the gravity from the moon 0:15:49.450,0:15:55.820 actually counteracts the earth's gravitational field, so being in space is micro-gravity, 0:15:55.820,0:16:02.820 so while we are in space erm, there is some beneficial effect undoubtedly from the earth's' 0:16:03.300,0:16:10.300 gravitational field, so I am not sure that having the head up while they are in space 0:16:10.990,0:16:17.370 would make a great deal of difference, in fact all of the exercising and all of the 0:16:17.370,0:16:24.180 methods they have got to try and reduce the amount of damaging effects of being in micro-gravity 0:16:24.180,0:16:29.860 don't seem to be helping a great deal. What do you think the issue, what are the 0:16:29.860,0:16:36.860 causes of varicose veins or what they call this chronic venous insufficiency, which is 0:16:37.399,0:16:42.550 pretty common these days? Something is going on with the veins? 0:16:42.550,0:16:49.550 Well, the general feeling as we discussed in the last interview was that the valves 0:16:51.459,0:16:57.459 were playing a role and erm, it's the failure of these valves that are causing the veins 0:16:57.459,0:17:04.010 to bulge, but if it is the failure of these valves then how come Inclined Bed Therapy 0:17:04.010,0:17:10.040 has actually reversed varicose veins? You know obviously someone who has severe 0:17:10.040,0:17:15.790 varicose problem will take a great deal longer than several weeks or even several months. 0:17:15.790,0:17:18.620 Sure You know to get the full benefits, you know 0:17:18.620,0:17:25.500 a fairly substantial vein can go flat in four weeks, erm now if this is happening then clearly 0:17:25.500,0:17:28.500 it can't be the valves. It can't be it has to be something else. 0:17:28.500,0:17:35.500 No it can't it has to be something else, now what I believe is happening there is that 0:17:36.520,0:17:43.490 the downward flow is stimulated by gravity, dragging upon the density changes in the blood. 0:17:43.490,0:17:50.490 Now if we apply this dragging effect by gravity to the blood, to the molecules in the blood, 0:17:51.410,0:17:57.500 that applies tension to every molecule, in not only in the arterial blood flow but also 0:17:57.500,0:18:03.419 in the venous return and that will affect every single drop of blood in the body, so 0:18:03.419,0:18:10.419 that applying tension would lower the pressure in the veins and would also by applying tension 0:18:10.750,0:18:14.090 cause the blood to actually pull the veins in. 0:18:14.090,0:18:21.090 So that would, well that is in my opinion why IBT is working for chronic venous insufficiency. 0:18:27.580,0:18:34.100 So the chronic venous insufficiency or the people get the edema and er is that a Kidney 0:18:34.100,0:18:38.919 thing? Or a gravity thing do you think? Do we know? 0:18:38.919,0:18:45.919 Well again, oedema is caused by and this is erm accepted is that the pressure inside the 0:18:47.169,0:18:50.400 veins becomes greater than the pressure from the surrounding tissue 0:18:50.400,0:18:56.010 so that the fluids migrate from the blood into the surrounding tissue causing the lower 0:18:56.010,0:19:00.720 limbs to swell. Now the exact opposite occurred when we tilted 0:19:00.720,0:19:04.040 peoples beds. We have had some phenomenal results in oedema 0:19:04.040,0:19:09.169 have been achieved by raising the head end of the bed, which is ironic really because 0:19:09.169,0:19:13.760 the medical profession say that you need to raise the legs in order to shift the fluid 0:19:13.760,0:19:15.440 back up to the trunk. Yeah that's what 0:19:15.440,0:19:19.540 Yeah that's great because all you are doing is shifting the fluid around the body, whereas 0:19:19.540,0:19:24.760 IBT is actually pulling the fluid. Because you have reversed the pressure problem 0:19:24.760,0:19:30.520 or solved the pressure problem, the fluids start migrating back from the surrounding 0:19:30.520,0:19:35.530 tissue into the veins, whipped around the circulation, through the kidneys and excreted 0:19:35.530,0:19:40.700 in the urine. So initially someone with oedema would probably 0:19:40.700,0:19:47.410 notice that their you know none-stop trips to the bathroom while the excess fluid is 0:19:47.410,0:19:53.080 being pulled into the venous return. So that's what could be er a lot of people 0:19:53.080,0:19:57.210 when they are peeing, it could just be that the body is working just fine? 0:19:57.210,0:20:02.090 Yes Huhh Huhh Hmm Hmmm Yes it is interesting Andrew 0:20:02.090,0:20:07.870 that when most guys that that happens to go straight to the prostate but it maybe not, 0:20:07.870,0:20:13.480 it maybe more of a kidney bladder thing that the body is just getting rid of fluid like 0:20:13.480,0:20:15.490 it is supposed to? Yes, 0:20:15.490,0:20:22.490 Dr, erm, hang on a minute what was his name now? Brain dead as well. I have forgot the 0:20:25.320,0:20:25.720 guy's name. 0:20:25.720,0:20:31.789 A vascular, Peter Lewis a vascular surgeon, erm again I mentioned this the last time, 0:20:31.789,0:20:38.080 er he had a patient at Torbay Hospital and erm, during our conversation at his home, 0:20:38.080,0:20:45.080 he said well, I have put your theory to the test with a patient. She is severely swollen 0:20:45.179,0:20:51.830 she has ascites which is a problem with the liver and we have tried the diuretics, nothing 0:20:51.830,0:20:58.730 seams to work. He described her as being like a giant water balloon, he said he had real 0:20:58.730,0:21:05.730 problems trying to get to the bottom of this and tilted her bed. He literally left his 0:21:05.980,0:21:11.320 house and went to the hospital to check this lady and came back. 0:21:11.320,0:21:16.360 And he said he couldn't believe the difference, he said it is just incredible. No diuretic 0:21:16.360,0:21:19.919 has ever had that affect. I'll be darned. 0:21:19.919,0:21:21.679 Yes Andrew Fletcher is here, if you raised the 0:21:21.679,0:21:27.130 head of your bed call us or email us and let us know your experience. 0:21:27.130,0:21:34.130 Patrick at oneradionetwork.com is the email Telephone number 8886636386 You can check 0:21:34.289,0:21:40.090 out Andrew's website after the show. inclinedbedtherapy.com Inclined Bed Therapy 0:21:40.090,0:21:46.190 Dot Com 6 inches, get some books, that's what I do, 0:21:46.190,0:21:51.039 talking with Andrew Fletcher it's our follow up show about 3 months ago asking you if you 0:21:51.039,0:21:56.830 inclined your bed? If you would be inclined to email us and let us know some of your experiences. 0:21:56.830,0:22:03.830 Or call 8886636386 Patrick At One Radio Network Dot Com Inclined Bed Therapy Dot Com Andrew 0:22:06.220,0:22:10.590 Fletcher is in Devon There near Queen Mum In England 0:22:10.590,0:22:17.590 Where it's probably I dunno maybe 4.30 or so in the afternoon where Andrew is. 0:22:20.309,0:22:24.860 Hi Sharon Hi Patrick I started doing the Inclined Bed Therapy the 0:22:24.860,0:22:31.860 first week of July I have two herniated disks L4 and L5 and I have had chronic pain for 0:22:32.830,0:22:36.750 the last eight years. I have spent thousands of dollar on ineffective 0:22:36.750,0:22:39.710 treatments until I listened to this show on Inclined Bed Therapy. 0:22:39.710,0:22:44.640 I was unable to sleep on my left side due to numbness in this position. 0:22:44.640,0:22:49.610 I am delighted to announce that after two days of using inclined bed therapy and four 0:22:49.610,0:22:55.039 dollars worth of wood I am now able to sleep on my left side without any numbness. I am 0:22:55.039,0:23:00.600 so grateful. I do tell people, So far I am the only taker. 0:23:00.600,0:23:02.710 Much love to you from Janet. 0:23:02.710,0:23:08.410 Well my goodness Isn't that great 0:23:08.410,0:23:13.160 That's fantastic Isn't that great 0:23:13.160,0:23:17.660 So what do you make of that I mean, I guess, do you think the spine is happier in this 0:23:17.660,0:23:22.230 position? Without a doubt. If you sleep on a horizontal 0:23:22.230,0:23:28.590 bed again you get the degeneration between the joints and the compression that we have 0:23:28.590,0:23:35.510 encountered throughout the day with our weight compressing the spinal column is not resolved 0:23:35.510,0:23:42.510 by sleeping on a flat bed or indeed by being in a sitting position, which again compresses 0:23:43.230,0:23:46.370 the spine. But when you are on a sloping bed, not only 0:23:46.370,0:23:51.730 do you improve the circulation, which goes around and rehydrates all of the little cushions 0:23:51.730,0:23:54.530 between the joints. The disks 0:23:54.530,0:23:58.169 Right the disks. What we are doing is applying traction to 0:23:58.169,0:24:05.169 the spine, so yes a few people will complain about aches but what we are seeing here is 0:24:05.380,0:24:11.299 a de-compression of the spine. Now decompression is great for people with an injured spine 0:24:11.299,0:24:14.309 because that's exactly what you get from the chiropractor 0:24:14.309,0:24:18.929 You get some decompression going on which helps to pull the joints back into line. 0:24:18.929,0:24:25.400 Well You can do this gently over the course of a few days or even a few months. 0:24:25.400,0:24:32.030 And that traction, well anyone that tries IBT can actually feel the traction and this 0:24:32.030,0:24:37.929 is caused because your body is trying to move down the bed, your weight is shifted and it's 0:24:37.929,0:24:43.530 held back by the friction between yourself and the mattress and what this does is that 0:24:43.530,0:24:48.789 sheer force is applied to the spine. It is also applied to the joints as well. 0:24:48.789,0:24:54.240 So it relieves the joints allowing the fluids to get inside and actually cause some repairs. 0:24:54.240,0:25:01.240 And keep those disks nice and puffy, that's what happens when folks get disk issues, they 0:25:01.470,0:25:04.020 kinda get dried up. Yes 0:25:04.020,0:25:11.020 We have had some significant improvements in a lady with Dowagers hump. It has actually 0:25:12.590,0:25:19.130 straightened out the spine. A girl I mentioned on the last show with cerebral 0:25:19.130,0:25:24.850 palsy with severe curvature of the spine, it corrected the curvature of the spine. 0:25:24.850,0:25:30.390 And people with spinal cord injury have found huge benefits from sleeping on an inclined 0:25:30.390,0:25:31.740 bed. Humm Huh 0:25:31.740,0:25:38.070 I have often read that folks will actually flip themselves over in this inverted position 0:25:38.070,0:25:43.610 to decompress the spine, isn't that kind of counter-intuitive to what you are saying? 0:25:43.610,0:25:50.610 I suppose well yes it is. But what you are doing there is you are literally 0:25:51.419,0:25:55.059 using the bodies weight to apply traction to the spine. 0:25:55.059,0:26:02.039 IBT is doing the same, but you get the adverse effects of being head down as I explained 0:26:02.039,0:26:08.020 for example when my wife and I ended up with diarrhoea because our gut wasn't functioning 0:26:08.020,0:26:15.020 properly while we were in the head down position. And indeed NASA again bless them, have spent 0:26:15.330,0:26:21.590 many many thousands of dollars paying people to sleep with their heads down and their feet 0:26:21.590,0:26:22.309 up. Really? 0:26:22.309,0:26:29.309 Yeah Just to er see what happens with regards to the degenerative affects of being head 0:26:29.909,0:26:36.909 down and feet up, so they have actually accelerated the ageing process 10 times faster. 0:26:38.520,0:26:43.179 Really? By having healthy subjects sleeping head down 0:26:43.179,0:26:48.870 feet up. Haaa I'll be so and plus too with inclined 0:26:48.870,0:26:54.549 bed therapy you are getting eight hours or so every day right? 0:26:54.549,0:26:57.330 Yes And these inverted things that people are 0:26:57.330,0:26:59.600 flipped over for twenty minutes or somthing? Yes 0:26:59.600,0:27:06.600 But I guess they would have their benefit if they could stretch our or decompress the 0:27:06.850,0:27:13.850 spine in some way of which I guess they could? Yes that could be achieved on an inverter, 0:27:14.549,0:27:19.909 but it could be achieved a lot easier and a lot more safely on an inclined bed and at 0:27:19.909,0:27:21.980 a fraction of the cost. Sure 0:27:21.980,0:27:25.730 So what do you suppose is going on with the gut when you do the head down and you all 0:27:25.730,0:27:31.650 got diarrhoea that's pretty interesting? It is interesting, I have heard that the actor 0:27:31.650,0:27:38.650 Marlon Brando was encouraged to sleep head down because he had a huge problem with weight, 0:27:38.880,0:27:42.380 excuse the pun. Yeah he did 0:27:42.380,0:27:49.380 But it didn't do mr Brando a lot of good as we have learned. 0:27:49.500,0:27:56.500 What happens with the gut? Ok If we go back again to the way that the tree 0:27:58.320,0:28:04.100 functions, the evaporation from the trees leaves changes the density of the sap, gravity 0:28:04.100,0:28:09.320 pulls the denser sap down, that applies tension to the downward flowing sap which stretches 0:28:09.320,0:28:14.390 back to the return flowing sap in the xylem. But not only to the return flowing sap it 0:28:14.390,0:28:18.650 stretches back to the soil water, drawing the soil water into the tree. 0:28:18.650,0:28:25.100 Well that tension affects the molecules of water, even into the soil and the same applies 0:28:25.100,0:28:32.100 to the body. In the explanation I gave before, the downward 0:28:33.380,0:28:39.190 flow generated by the evaporation from the respiratory tract applies tension to the downward 0:28:39.190,0:28:44.929 flowing blood, which stretches back to the venous return. That venous return actually 0:28:44.929,0:28:51.929 picks up fluid from the stomach gut. If that fluid is dilute enough everything is hunky 0:28:53.470,0:29:00.279 dory, everything works fine. If we have overloaded it with denser substances I.E. eating too 0:29:00.279,0:29:07.279 much salt. We can trigger diarrhoea yeah, by having too much density in the gut contents. 0:29:08.549,0:29:15.000 Now we achieve that by tilting the bed around in the opposite direction because the salts 0:29:15.000,0:29:20.200 were not being excreted in the urine, then there was a density imbalance between the 0:29:20.200,0:29:26.460 fluids in the gut and the fluids in the blood. So we interrupted it. 0:29:26.460,0:29:33.320 Hmm Hmm So you think that when we raise the head it helps the body to get rid of any excess 0:29:33.320,0:29:37.880 salts. Yes there is a detox going on for sure. 0:29:37.880,0:29:40.250 Ok Which is important because who knows exactly 0:29:40.250,0:29:46.789 how much, I know we need salt it is very beneficial but we don't really know how much I guess 0:29:46.789,0:29:48.549 every body is different. Yes 0:29:48.549,0:29:55.549 There is still a bit of an argument as to how dangerous too much salt is so certainly 0:29:56.390,0:30:02.299 I have seen dogs on the beach that have drank too much sea water and they end up with projectile 0:30:02.299,0:30:02.950 diarrhoea. Sure 0:30:02.950,0:30:07.980 I have seen this time and time again. Of course that is different from sea salt, 0:30:07.980,0:30:12.159 I mean that's pretty, there's a lot of sodium in ocean water. 0:30:12.159,0:30:12.940 Yes Yeah 0:30:12.940,0:30:19.940 Are there, is there evidence that species other than humans that know this technology? 0:30:24.140,0:30:31.140 Sleep with their head raised? Yes, as we mentioned briefly cattle and sheep 0:30:32.809,0:30:39.809 in a field if there is a hill side there, and they are laying down, they will all be 0:30:41.240,0:30:44.950 facing uphill. There is some species of bats that again bats 0:30:44.950,0:30:50.000 hang upside down erm but there are some species of bats that sleep upright. 0:30:50.000,0:30:56.840 What about the Chimps and apes? Yes, again chimps sleep in trees, they make 0:30:56.840,0:31:03.840 a nest and sleep head up in the nest. Lions in the zoo, I noticed during a recent 0:31:05.080,0:31:12.080 trip to the local zoo they have got a sloping ramp with two posts and a turfed roof and 0:31:14.760,0:31:21.510 the lions are always facing up on the turfed roof. 0:31:21.510,0:31:25.289 Andrew Fletcher is with us, Inclined Bed Therapy If you have had some experience with raising 0:31:25.289,0:31:29.070 your bed up, email us: Patrick at one radio network dot com. 0:31:29.070,0:31:30.390 This is from Shane 0:31:30.390,0:31:36.309 My input would be extremely favourable it's like I am aware of the Earth's curvature and 0:31:36.309,0:31:40.720 I am sleeping on that curvature rather than just lying on a flat earth. 0:31:40.720,0:31:45.320 Dreams are just so vivid and colourful I definitely can't go back. 0:31:45.320,0:31:52.179 Humm that's fun Again that's an interesting comment because 0:31:52.179,0:31:58.649 quite a few of us have reported vivid dreams. It's very difficult to determine these are 0:31:58.649,0:32:05.610 dreams because it is so vivid. And I believe that this is an improvement 0:32:05.610,0:32:11.149 in brain function while we are sleeping, so we are able to remember our dreams, which 0:32:11.149,0:32:18.149 is something a lot of us can't do What's the magic number with six inches raising 0:32:18.610,0:32:23.820 the bed six inches not 4 or 8? What I did to determine this was I used a 0:32:23.820,0:32:29.350 loop of plastic tubing which I joined together so it was a complete closed loop. The loop 0:32:29.350,0:32:35.260 was filled with water and some coloured salt solution was added before the loop was closed. 0:32:35.260,0:32:41.090 That was then stretched along the bed and I raised the bed up 4 inches and I got a downward 0:32:41.090,0:32:46.279 flow in the one side of the tube as the coloured salt solution migrated down that side. 0:32:46.279,0:32:52.110 But I had a return flow over the top of it in the same side of the tube. In other words 0:32:52.110,0:32:58.090 it didn't cause the whole of the fluid filled tube to circulate. 0:32:58.090,0:33:03.149 It was a two tier directional flow in one side of the tube, 0:33:03.149,0:33:09.830 When I raised the bed up a further inch up to five inches, I managed to get the circulation 0:33:09.830,0:33:15.990 completely flowing so we had a down-flow in one side of the loop and the return flow in 0:33:15.990,0:33:21.220 the opposite side of the loop. So that was representing the arterial flow in the body 0:33:21.220,0:33:26.520 and the venous return in the blood and that was the logic that I used for the angle of 0:33:26.520,0:33:31.080 the bed. But interestingly enough, the ancient Egyptians 0:33:31.080,0:33:37.830 that I mentioned before got there before me. In fact all of their beds in the tombs were 0:33:37.830,0:33:39.789 raised exactly 15 centimetres at the head end. 0:33:39.789,0:33:44.559 No kidding, yes you mentioned that before, that's crazy. The ancient Egyptians, they 0:33:44.559,0:33:48.080 figured it out. Yes they did 0:33:48.080,0:33:51.590 That's amazing I wonder how they did that? 0:33:51.590,0:33:55.850 You know they were pretty creative people. They built pyramids and stuff. 0:33:55.850,0:34:02.779 I would think another we have noticed on the sloping bed is that if you have been working 0:34:02.779,0:34:09.200 hard, doing manual labour, your muscles ache the next day, you know even sports people. 0:34:09.200,0:34:11.749 Sure Soccer stars, you know people that are engaged 0:34:11.749,0:34:17.709 in strenuous activities get a lot of damage to the muscles and they get a lot of aching. 0:34:17.709,0:34:24.009 I should imagine that the people working on the pyramids were experiencing some discomfort. 0:34:24.009,0:34:29.190 You think he? Without a doubt, they were shifting some impressive 0:34:29.190,0:34:36.190 pieces of rock around with very limited tools. So I would think that you know one or two 0:34:37.509,0:34:42.709 of them would have slept on a slope somehow and noticed that they were not aching as much. 0:34:42.709,0:34:48.119 You know someone, I'm just guessing here that that is probably how it developed, someone 0:34:48.119,0:34:55.119 realised that you are not getting as much, my son calls it something, he works out, he 0:34:55.669,0:35:02.669 uses weights. And he has noticed as well that after he has done his work out if he is sleeping 0:35:03.269,0:35:09.739 on an inclined bed his problems are far less in the morning than if he has been sleeping 0:35:09.739,0:35:15.880 on a flat bed. When sleeping on a flat bed it's taking him a couple of days to get over 0:35:15.880,0:35:20.700 the damage that he has caused to his muscles. Because that's what happens, you tear muscles 0:35:20.700,0:35:23.589 and they repair and that's how you get bigger muscles. 0:35:23.589,0:35:28.739 You know it's interesting, I don't know if this means anything I do quite a bit of spiritual 0:35:28.739,0:35:35.739 exercises and you know, I go to the other realms and play around you know. 0:35:36.019,0:35:43.019 And we are taught in my spiritual discipline that it's actually more beneficial or easier 0:35:45.469,0:35:50.769 to leave your body in a sitting position than it is lying down. 0:35:50.769,0:35:57.410 and I find out that I can do I can have more profound experiences in a sitting position 0:35:57.410,0:36:04.410 than I do spiritual exercises actually lying down. I wonder what that's about, something 0:36:05.170,0:36:08.450 there. Yes the brains functioning better while we 0:36:08.450,0:36:12.299 are in the upright position. I believe that's why. 0:36:12.299,0:36:15.469 You think that's why it is? Yes it gave us a huge advantage over every 0:36:15.469,0:36:17.769 other species on the planet. Haa haa may be so 0:36:17.769,0:36:22.219 When we stood up vertical it completely changed the way our circulation worked. 0:36:22.219,0:36:27.989 Really? So in general is it healthier to stand than sit? 0:36:27.989,0:36:34.989 Yes, but again if we see a guard on duty, we have all seen the silly videos of people 0:36:35.269,0:36:40.569 falling over at weddings where they are standing motionless and they pass out, yes the guards 0:36:40.569,0:36:45.380 would do the same, but the guards tend to shift their weight from one leg to the other 0:36:45.380,0:36:50.049 leg, you can't actually see them doing it but they are gently rocking from side to side 0:36:50.049,0:36:56.569 moving their weight and what this is doing, this is causing the tissue beneath the feet 0:36:56.569,0:37:03.420 to act as a pump, so that it is actually helping the circulation, so if you can imagine when 0:37:03.420,0:37:09.059 you put your foot down on a car foot pump you blow air into the tyre, but you are also 0:37:09.059,0:37:12.390 compressing the fluid beneath the foot. Okay 0:37:12.390,0:37:15.859 So when you take your foot off and put your foot back down as if you were walking you 0:37:15.859,0:37:21.950 are actually benefiting from this but if you are standing motionless, I.E. your job requires 0:37:21.950,0:37:26.069 you to stand motionless. Like the guards at Buckingham Palace or something. 0:37:26.069,0:37:30.700 Yes, you could be in serious trouble if you don't weight shift. 0:37:30.700,0:37:34.209 Sure Because what you have done therei s you have 0:37:34.209,0:37:40.400 actually compressed the vessels below the feet and that is having an affect on the circulatory 0:37:40.400,0:37:47.390 system. Not just blood circulation but also cerebro-spinal-fluid circulation as well. 0:37:47.390,0:37:52.809 So that's why they blame sometimes edema and chronic venous insufficiency on standing but 0:37:52.809,0:37:56.569 what they are not saying is that if you move around then it's not an issue? 0:37:56.569,0:37:57.880 That's right Right 0:37:57.880,0:38:00.920 In fact it's better for you? Yes 0:38:00.920,0:38:03.009 It's better They encourage people with varicose veins, 0:38:03.009,0:38:07.910 especially if they have just had surgery to get as much walking in as you can. 0:38:07.910,0:38:12.729 Okay, that's why walking is so beneficial, it makes everything like the rebounding that 0:38:12.729,0:38:19.209 we talk about, it makes everything work. Yes it's interesting, I began standing up 0:38:19.209,0:38:24.459 about 3 weeks ago doing my show and actually working on my computer most of the day I am 0:38:24.459,0:38:29.219 standing. I am standing right now and with my headsets and microphone, I can dance around 0:38:29.219,0:38:35.180 like I am doing now, on my tip toes or I can do deep knee bends during the commercial and 0:38:35.180,0:38:42.180 so I feel better standing up I just do I feel more energy standing up you know. 0:38:44.410,0:38:48.950 Sitting is a huge problem as well. Why is that, what's going on scientifically 0:38:48.950,0:38:55.950 Andrew with sitting? Again, we need that free passage down to our 0:38:56.799,0:38:59.719 feet. If we have got our knees higher than our seat. 0:38:59.719,0:39:02.979 If you have got your knees what? Sorry say that again. 0:39:02.979,0:39:08.309 Higher than our seat. You know if we have got our knees raised and our seat is lower. 0:39:08.309,0:39:11.499 Okay Yes, then what we have done is we have introduced 0:39:11.499,0:39:18.499 a brake on the circulation and that together with the pressure on the buttocks can actually 0:39:19.369,0:39:23.749 slow down the circulation, just as I have explained with the tissue beneath the feet, 0:39:23.749,0:39:30.200 that pressure constantly can slow down everything in the body and can actually cause you to 0:39:30.200,0:39:34.619 go to sleep. And in fact, I took the main boardroom at 0:39:34.619,0:39:41.619 Jaguar. Jaguar cars. I was there for 2 hours and they said they had never been so captivated 0:39:41.819,0:39:47.259 by an explanation as how a driving seat could make someone fall asleep at the wheel. 0:39:47.259,0:39:49.589 Because your knees are actually higher than your booty? 0:39:49.589,0:39:55.200 Yes, yes and I was explaining to the people at Jaguar that if they re-designed the seats 0:39:55.200,0:39:59.719 and raised the seat up slightly so that it was at least level with the knees or possibly 0:39:59.719,0:40:04.400 a little bit higher, then that would prevent people from falling asleep at the wheel. 0:40:04.400,0:40:11.180 And I added that people in trucks, where they have got these taller seats they don't get 0:40:11.180,0:40:18.140 so tired. And in fact I did some experiments myself and added a few extra cushions and 0:40:18.140,0:40:23.049 went on a huge journey in a car which I had done before, which slaughters me when I get 0:40:23.049,0:40:28.459 out the car I am unable to walk. We have all done that, travelled too far without stopping 0:40:28.459,0:40:35.459 and yet when I put the cushions underneath my seat, I got out of the car as if I hadn't 0:40:36.630,0:40:41.849 been on a journey. Ohhh, because you got the knees lower than 0:40:41.849,0:40:42.719 your booty. Yes 0:40:42.719,0:40:47.759 I felt fresh, You know I felt fresh as a daisy Because the whole pump thing is working when 0:40:47.759,0:40:49.779 it is like that? Yes 0:40:49.779,0:40:55.259 Hmmm Hmmm That's why people who do sit a lot, they have a really good experience like I 0:40:55.259,0:40:59.349 have with a chair here that I don't use any more, but it's from a back store and it is 0:40:59.349,0:41:06.349 just like a round ball kind of thing that it is on springs and when you sit, your sitting 0:41:07.900,0:41:12.839 your knees are way lower than your booty and you can actually bounce on it. 0:41:12.839,0:41:16.640 And I never really got tired using that. That's interesting. 0:41:16.640,0:41:19.680 Have you ever seen those? Yes 0:41:19.680,0:41:25.249 And then people also use balls, like big, you can get these balls that you can sit on 0:41:25.249,0:41:30.259 that your knees got to be lower than your seat and they feel good if they sit at their 0:41:30.259,0:41:32.119 computer using these balls. Ballanced with them 0:41:32.119,0:41:37.209 Yes Yes That does make a great deal of sense. 0:41:37.209,0:41:41.449 It makes sense doesn't it. It does to me 0:41:41.449,0:41:45.709 And also for the guys who are sitting a lot it cuts off, it's not a good thing for the 0:41:45.709,0:41:48.940 prostate. Hmmm that's true. 0:41:48.940,0:41:54.650 That's what got me thinking about it. I watched a video from one of our past guests and he 0:41:54.650,0:41:58.900 started talking about sitting and the prostate and said well, you know what I think I'm gonna 0:41:58.900,0:42:04.309 keep my prostate in a healthy position. I just started standing because I don't wanna 0:42:04.309,0:42:09.920 mess around with this, you know. I have had some feedback from people who have 0:42:09.920,0:42:16.920 got prostate problems, with frequent urination and it's provided huge benefits to these people. 0:42:18.559,0:42:22.729 Really? With Andrew Fletcher, Patrick Timpone http://oneraionetwork.com 0:42:22.729,0:42:27.209 http://inclinedbedtherapy.com I am surprised we don't have more because 0:42:27.209,0:42:34.209 we had a lot of people who wrote in saying they were going to do this. and I am surprised 0:42:34.660,0:42:38.829 we don't have more people writing in maybe they are just not there this morning. 0:42:38.829,0:42:42.680 Yes, I have had a lot of problems with people giving feedback. 0:42:42.680,0:42:46.359 Well people get shy, you know Yes 0:42:46.359,0:42:53.359 Know the source, One Radio Network talk to Patrick now Now, 8886636386 or email Patrick 0:42:57.849,0:43:02.099 at onreradionetwork.com Inclined Bed Therapy with Andrew Fletcher 0:43:02.099,0:43:07.749 Patrick Timpone One Radio Network . com Inclined Bed Therapy dot com. 0:43:07.749,0:43:14.749 I wonder if there is any research into inclined bed therapy and sexuality and making babies 0:43:16.650,0:43:21.440 or anything have you seen any research there? Yes 0:43:21.440,0:43:24.829 I just through that one out there, I don't know what you were going to say? 0:43:24.829,0:43:28.619 In fact erectile dysfunction has been corrected How is that? 0:43:28.619,0:43:35.619 Again it improves the blood pressure problem. I had an embarrassing encounter with a good 0:43:39.869,0:43:46.869 friend who told me that she had a problem and that to her delight it had actually been 0:43:48.239,0:43:55.239 corrected with the sloping bed. But back to fertility, friend of ours, well 0:43:56.589,0:44:03.589 actually, I shouldn't say who it is really but she was erm on IVF In-vitro fertilization 0:44:17.079,0:44:24.079 and it had no effect, she couldn't conceive. And we convinced her to tilt the bed. And 0:44:27.519,0:44:33.359 she had given up having spent a fortune on the IVF and she conceived. 0:44:33.359,0:44:35.880 Isn't that funny Isn't that funny 0:44:35.880,0:44:40.069 Yes I am just wondering if those sperms need to 0:44:40.069,0:44:45.519 know which way is up and which way is down? Right, that's right 0:44:45.519,0:44:49.219 You know something as simple as the direction required by gravity. 0:44:49.219,0:44:56.059 That is so hilarious and she conceived? Yes, but not only did she conceive but she 0:44:56.059,0:45:00.729 kept the baby on an angle throughout the full term of pregnancy, she had a great time, the 0:45:00.729,0:45:07.630 baby was born healthy and the baby was put on an incline from birth as has happened with 0:45:07.630,0:45:13.769 my Granddaughter and now my new Granddaughter who is now the youngest IBT'r that I know 0:45:13.769,0:45:20.769 of to date, she again has gone full term and she was born 10 days early I think it was 0:45:22.499,0:45:29.499 and she is advanced for her age she is advanced. She will rest with her hand underneath her 0:45:32.769,0:45:38.609 head like someone thinking and she will put her thumb in her mouth each time without missing 0:45:38.609,0:45:43.559 so hand to mouth coordination is there right from birth, this is from day 2. 0:45:43.559,0:45:47.279 Wow Of being born, so hand to mouth coordination 0:45:47.279,0:45:51.890 from day 2. So you actually recommend then to even put 0:45:51.890,0:45:58.890 the babies six inches up? Erm, this this really touches er a bad chord 0:46:02.969,0:46:09.969 with me at the moment but erm, because of erm I I had a bad experience with the erm 0:46:12.390,0:46:16.309 Foundation for the Study of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome The Cot Death Foundation int 0:46:16.309,0:46:23.309 the UK. Now called the Lullaby Trust. I was invited to the home of Dr Shireen Chantler, 0:46:25.339,0:46:31.249 who was then the senior research advisor for the foundation and I was invited to her home 0:46:31.249,0:46:38.249 in London, travelled there at my own expense and took my experimental tubes with me and 0:46:38.569,0:46:43.279 explained all about the circulation and why we should keep babies on an angle and should 0:46:43.279,0:46:44.839 never place them flat. Okay 0:46:44.839,0:46:50.559 And she agreed with me, she turned around and said My God, she said, I think you have 0:46:50.559,0:46:55.890 solved it. I said what do you mean by that Dr Chantler? 0:46:55.890,0:47:00.319 She said I think you have solved sudden infant death syndrome and that meant that she had 0:47:00.319,0:47:04.249 agreed with me that babies shouldn't be put on a flat bed. 0:47:04.249,0:47:10.019 And yet they carried on with their back to sleep campaign and erm and encouraged mothers 0:47:10.019,0:47:13.910 to put their babies flat. On their backs? 0:47:13.910,0:47:17.759 Yes I actually believe that if we elevate the 0:47:17.759,0:47:22.410 cots erm, there would be no more sudden infant death syndrome. 0:47:22.410,0:47:23.239 Really? Yes 0:47:23.239,0:47:27.640 What is? It doesn't sit very well with me, in fact 0:47:27.640,0:47:32.709 I went to see a solicitor to see if I could sue the foundation. 0:47:32.709,0:47:36.789 Wow To make them listen. He said there is no president 0:47:36.789,0:47:42.329 in law to make someone listen even if a child's life is at risk. 0:47:42.329,0:47:47.779 And erm you know how these foundations are Andrew that they get you know like the diabetes 0:47:47.779,0:47:54.779 they get to do it a certain way and it's very hard for them to change their ideas. 0:47:58.329,0:48:04.880 I am glad that you mentioned diabetes Patrick. Because a pilot study has been conducted in 0:48:04.880,0:48:10.119 an island called Pohnpei and it was conducted by Tetaake Yee Ting 0:48:10.119,0:48:14.499 Forgive me Tetaaki if I have pronounced your name wrong. 0:48:14.499,0:48:20.249 And it's just a small pilot project because they have a huge problem with obesity and 0:48:20.249,0:48:24.219 diabetes on the island Since these people have adopted the American 0:48:24.219,0:48:24.769 diet Yeah 0:48:24.769,0:48:31.769 And 13 individuals volunteered as participants 12 of them had been diagnosed with diabetes 0:48:34.099,0:48:39.319 by their health service to be diabetic and one diagnosed as being pre-diabetic. 0:48:39.319,0:48:46.259 All participants listed other problems including back pain and oedema, difficulty sleeping, 0:48:46.259,0:48:52.119 frequent night time urination, snoring, morning light headedness and some pain in joints and 0:48:52.119,0:48:56.989 all participants claimed to have noticed improvements in all of these problems. 0:48:56.989,0:49:00.589 Wow But what they also noticed was that the IBT 0:49:00.589,0:49:04.269 actually had lowered the sugar levels in the patients. 0:49:04.269,0:49:05.749 Lowered their blood sugar levels? Yes 0:49:05.749,0:49:11.900 What do you suppose that's about? Well again, sugar is dense, so if we have 0:49:11.900,0:49:17.390 got the bed on an angle, then we are helping the kidneys to actually flush out some of 0:49:17.390,0:49:22.930 the sugar, but also by being on an angle the body is more alert, there is more going on, 0:49:22.930,0:49:29.749 your metabolism has increased, so we are also more able to burn up some sugar, so it's a 0:49:29.749,0:49:36.749 double wham effect. Two of the participants, their blood sugar 0:49:36.839,0:49:43.839 actually went up instead of down and Tetaaki investigated it and one of the participants 0:49:46.039,0:49:52.979 was not on an angled bed and had been over indulging at a wedding for 2 days and the 0:49:52.979,0:49:58.709 other one was not on an angled bed and had been over indulging at a funeral for 2 days. 0:49:58.709,0:50:03.189 Huh even though those sweets. We have had questions from listeners about 0:50:03.189,0:50:09.839 those foam wedges you put under the mattress, is that the same thing as raising your bed? 0:50:09.839,0:50:15.199 No I wouldn't go with the foam, first of all it's expensive, foam makes you sweat and we 0:50:15.199,0:50:20.519 want to try and avoid that. But the other thing is that the weight of your shoulders 0:50:20.519,0:50:25.660 will actually press down into the foam. Yes you get that to some degree with any mattress 0:50:25.660,0:50:32.660 but I should imagine that the foam would amplify the problem. 0:50:33.890,0:50:36.849 You wouldn't be getting the full angle. What do you do for people, what ideas do you 0:50:36.849,0:50:43.359 have with people that had bed's that when they raised it up they felt like the bed was 0:50:43.359,0:50:47.469 gonna kinda like collapse? Do you just have to get a stronger bed? 0:50:47.469,0:50:54.469 No, what can be done there is you can buy a piece of plywood, a sheet of plywood 8 feet 0:50:55.369,0:51:02.369 by 4 feet. Or you may need two sheets of plywood and cut a strip off to actually extend it 0:51:02.949,0:51:08.150 to the width of the mattress. Pop that under the mattress and then put some 0:51:08.150,0:51:14.989 wooden cross beams one six inches at the top and a 3 inch in the middle and drop the plywood 0:51:14.989,0:51:20.109 over the top of the cross beams and sit the mattress on the top of that, job done. 0:51:20.109,0:51:25.049 Oh so just support the bed so you don;t have to get a new bed. 0:51:25.049,0:51:27.239 Yes And what that does it takes the load off the 0:51:27.239,0:51:31.299 corners because it's the joints that are the problem. 0:51:31.299,0:51:37.099 You can also buy some strengthening joints, these are available I have seen them on Ebay 0:51:37.099,0:51:41.289 which are just like a metal bracket that you just screw onto the existing frame and those 0:51:41.289,0:51:45.789 can beef up the joints. Ohhh that might be eaiser. 0:51:45.789,0:51:50.890 Yes So it's a joint issue it's not the centre 0:51:50.890,0:51:55.209 it's not the middle of the bed that's a problem, the joints don't take that pressure. 0:51:55.209,0:52:01.089 That's right, because your weight has shifted as I explained earlier, your weight is moving 0:52:01.089,0:52:06.489 towards the base of the bed, what that's doing is it is loading or stressing those joints 0:52:06.489,0:52:11.989 which are designed to take a flat weight. So you are trying to twist the headboard and 0:52:11.989,0:52:17.189 the footboard over by sleeping on that inclined bed. 0:52:17.189,0:52:19.680 Okay If you have a metal frame, that should be 0:52:19.680,0:52:22.189 fine. Yes, for a wooden frame that can't take it 0:52:22.189,0:52:26.479 you just put some joints and that might just do the whole thing. 0:52:26.479,0:52:26.959 Yes 0:52:26.959,0:52:30.640 Here is for Andrew Fletcher, this is from Cathline 0:52:30.640,0:52:34.420 In Iowa We started the Inclined Bed Therapy in July, 0:52:34.420,0:52:38.349 my husband is doing great with it, less pain in his legs and his knees. 0:52:38.349,0:52:43.160 I on the other hand have more restless sleep. Does he have any feedback from people that 0:52:43.160,0:52:49.739 might have less results such as detox and take a longer period of time? 0:52:49.739,0:52:56.739 Yes, I would imagine that she could be detoxing but she could also might be getting a little 0:52:57.910,0:53:04.910 bit too warm, because my Wife's feet, she used to put her feet on me and they would 0:53:07.279,0:53:12.819 be freezing cold, for an hour and a half, really bad problem with circulation and now 0:53:12.819,0:53:17.890 she sleeps with her feet out of the bed because they get too warm. So it might be the case 0:53:17.890,0:53:24.890 of just removing a little bit of the bedding. But certainly there is a definite detox going 0:53:25.930,0:53:30.349 on there. If you think about heavy metals we have talked 0:53:30.349,0:53:35.229 about heavy metals, mercury and lead in the blood and also in the brain. 0:53:35.229,0:53:42.150 It stands to sense that if you tilt the bed it is going to be migrating towards the kidneys. 0:53:42.150,0:53:45.259 Yes and the kidneys work better when the bed is raised 0:53:45.259,0:53:48.719 Yes And so do you think has it been your experience 0:53:48.719,0:53:55.390 that this raising the head of the bed things just keep improving? As in the months and 0:53:55.390,0:53:58.979 the years go on? Well it certainly seems to be the case. 0:53:58.979,0:54:04.079 Does it? Yes, Obviously can you improve on feeling 0:54:04.079,0:54:07.359 fit and well? Exactly, we can all there's always another 0:54:07.359,0:54:14.359 step. Yes, one lady who is a nurse, who is on the 0:54:21.239,0:54:28.239 Facebook group, she has made a comment, she said she's a nurse by the way who works in 0:54:31.420,0:54:35.609 an accident and emergency ward in America I think. 0:54:35.609,0:54:42.609 And she said that us health professionals lead a very unhealthy lifestyle, we eat all 0:54:42.969,0:54:49.670 the wrong foods, we are on our feet most of the time, she said "We all need to sleep on 0:54:49.670,0:54:56.039 an angled bed". So I said, well yes that's great but so do the patients, 0:54:56.039,0:54:57.900 Yeah And she agrees 0:54:57.900,0:55:04.900 Well you know it would be great, it would be easy enough to raise the head of the bed. 0:55:05.959,0:55:06.849 Here is from Bridget 0:55:06.849,0:55:13.259 Hey I have been using the inclined mattress I hope it will help my feet, I am still having 0:55:13.259,0:55:18.799 tingling feet, it seems to be helping, I do know though that it has helped my veins in 0:55:18.799,0:55:25.079 my legs, they look much better. I don't have bad ones but I did have more and more coming 0:55:25.079,0:55:29.679 up because I am on my feet a lot. They are now a lot better. I have to sleep 0:55:29.679,0:55:34.929 away from home a couple of nights a week or so and I am wondering if it messes up to go 0:55:34.929,0:55:40.119 back to a flat mattress every once in a while I also want to ask about making love, it's 0:55:40.119,0:55:42.839 a bit different going uphill. 0:55:42.839,0:55:47.349 Yeah well, good luck with that one Andrew Thanks for that one Patrick 0:55:47.349,0:55:52.769 Ill give that one to Andrew, I'm not messing around with that one. 0:55:52.769,0:55:59.769 I suppose a footboard would be a great idea to give your husband purchase. 0:56:00.719,0:56:07.719 Don't really have a problem with again you get used to being on an angled bed 0:56:10.759,0:56:13.589 Sure Great news about the veins 0:56:13.589,0:56:17.609 That's nice Yes that's added a little bit of weight to 0:56:17.609,0:56:24.609 what we discussed in the first interview. I am surprised that a lot more people haven't 0:56:24.989,0:56:30.769 come forward because you know there have been so many people who have contacted me and told 0:56:30.769,0:56:34.219 me what has happened to them and that they heard it on the radio. 0:56:34.219,0:56:41.219 We have had lots and lots and lots of comments on the comment page after the previous show. That's 0:56:49.789,0:56:54.559 been real good. We are getting more in now. 0:56:54.559,0:56:58.059 Here's one from Lee Helen My back feels so much better, I am a dental 0:56:58.059,0:57:01.309 hygienist so I feel a lot of stress in my shoulders. 0:57:01.309,0:57:07.179 My chiropractor noticed that my shoulder was not as tight and my massage therapist told 0:57:07.179,0:57:13.929 me my back looked balanced Lot's of love from Paula in Oregon and Lee 0:57:13.929,0:57:18.009 Helen I just have someone knocking at the door Patrick 0:57:18.009,0:57:19.699 Go ahead You gotta leave? 0:57:19.699,0:57:26.519 No No Go ahead and get that and take care of it 0:57:26.519,0:57:27.130 Andrew Thank you 0:57:27.130,0:57:33.619 Okay Yeah I just like the way it feels, I just 0:57:33.619,0:57:39.160 I just feel I don't know more balanced, more comfortable, just feels better. 0:57:39.160,0:57:46.099 Especially after talking with Andrew for these two times I am never going back 0:57:46.099,0:57:49.650 I say never I am never going to do it. That's alight, I was just telling folks that 0:57:49.650,0:57:56.650 the way I did it I found some really cool books, some health books and I just went and 0:57:58.029,0:58:03.630 measured, I just got a combination of books that were exactly six inches and some bigger 0:58:03.630,0:58:10.630 like er you know more an almanac type books that I got with health. And nutrition and 0:58:11.799,0:58:13.759 I thought that would be fun to put those under there. 0:58:13.759,0:58:16.809 Yeah I don't put anything spooky under there and 0:58:16.809,0:58:22.719 that's what I did and it works great. And I was able to do it myself and my bed 0:58:22.719,0:58:27.859 is pretty heavy, I just lifted it up and slipped them under there and it's exactly six inches 0:58:27.859,0:58:34.859 on each side. It is probably important to make sure you get six inches on each side. 0:58:40.729,0:58:43.999 Yes 0:58:43.999,0:58:50.209 I started using inclined bed therapy 3 weeks ago today for the first 19 days I raised a 0:58:50.209,0:58:54.890 futon and I really felt something changing, I felt more pain at times and my feet swelled 0:58:54.890,0:58:59.400 for a couple of days. Finally for the last two nights I was able to get my bed raised 0:58:59.400,0:59:06.199 at exactly the proper height permanently. First night in my bed caused more pain, probably 0:59:06.199,0:59:09.739 because of the different mattress. This morning after the second night in bed 0:59:09.739,0:59:14.619 I have been moving much easier. I have been diagnosed with M.S. 0:59:14.619,0:59:18.719 But with your help I realised it was mercury poisoning. 0:59:18.719,0:59:22.679 And have done a lot of other things to improve my physical symptoms however I still have 0:59:22.679,0:59:26.660 a long way to go. As far as pain in the lower back and legs 0:59:26.660,0:59:30.209 are concerned, I am still having quite a bit of pain in the inclined bed, but I can see 0:59:30.209,0:59:34.449 a slight difference every day. I will continue to keep my bed inclined from 0:59:34.449,0:59:36.849 this day on. 0:59:36.849,0:59:43.769 Excellent, Excellent I have a theory on what is happening with 0:59:43.769,0:59:50.769 people with multiple sclerosis. I believe that the circulation through the cerebrospinal 0:59:51.109,0:59:58.109 fluid and through the myelin is making the myelin respond better. The myelin is liquid 1:00:03.410,1:00:09.119 crystal, it behaves similar to the LCD screens in computers. Providing it remains in its 1:00:09.119,1:00:15.539 liquid state it has all the right properties to send messages too and fro, but what happens 1:00:15.539,1:00:22.539 is it somehow stagnates and causes lesions so it then becomes visible under an MRI scan. 1:00:23.709,1:00:30.479 So if we can keep this circulation going all the indicators are, you know I have done a 1:00:30.479,1:00:36.660 lot of work for people with multiple sclerosis and we have had some phenomenal results as 1:00:36.660,1:00:43.660 well. These lesions I believe could actually be resolved. 1:00:44.569,1:00:51.569 One of our longest standing ladies with ms, she doesn't feel that she has MS any more 1:00:53.179,1:00:58.869 and indeed her neurologist has told her that she doesn't need him any more. 1:00:58.869,1:01:02.699 13 after the hour Andrew Fletcher Inclined Bed Therapy Dot Com 1:01:02.699,1:01:03.249 Here is an email 1:01:03.249,1:01:10.249 I am using 3 six inch boxes and I have them at the head end of my mattress, how far down 1:01:11.140,1:01:17.039 should they be? How far down from the top and middle should 1:01:17.039,1:01:23.509 they be? I am not sure what she is saying here? 1:01:23.509,1:01:30.509 Tell her exactly what she needs to do. She just needs either books or bricks, blocks 1:01:31.819,1:01:37.799 of wood cut at six inches, so she needs to raise the head end of the bed six inches, 1:01:37.799,1:01:44.209 if the bed needs supporting in the centre, I.E. it comes in two boxes, then she needs 1:01:44.209,1:01:50.269 to support the join in the middle and pop the castors off the bottom and that prevents 1:01:50.269,1:01:53.089 the bed from rocking off the blocks of wood. 1:01:53.089,1:02:00.089 Oh sorry I miss read, I think she is doing it right. I am using 3 six inch boxes, I have 1:02:00.539,1:02:01.999 them at the head of my mattress. Oh Ok 1:02:01.999,1:02:04.529 That's what I said what you want right Yes 1:02:04.529,1:02:07.890 But she said how far down should they be? They should be right at the head. 1:02:07.890,1:02:12.349 Right at the head end yes. Ok That's what she meant, I miss read that 1:02:12.349,1:02:15.390 sorry. Yeah and they shouldn't be at the top or the 1:02:15.390,1:02:19.769 middle at all. There shouldn't be any need but if there is 1:02:19.769,1:02:26.229 some sagging on the bed, because obviously some of these beds have legs in the middle 1:02:26.229,1:02:31.999 so those will need choking up as well. Yeah but she's doing the right thing. 1:02:31.999,1:02:33.880 Yes Yeah some people I don't know if you need 1:02:33.880,1:02:39.549 three but three is good yeah. 1:02:39.549,1:02:46.469 Could I just add a little bit in? Sure 1:02:46.469,1:02:53.469 Remember I said with sudden infant deaths if we tilt the babies cots, then there is 1:02:56.569,1:03:02.579 a chance that the baby could end up with the head down and feet up. So someone suggested 1:03:02.579,1:03:09.579 that you get a pair of dads boxer shorts and tie the two ends to the sides of the bed / cot 1:03:10.979,1:03:16.679 and then drop the baby inside the boxer shorts then there is no chance of the baby slipping 1:03:16.679,1:03:18.229 down. 1:03:18.229,1:03:24.650 David Wolfe teaches the opposite writes John. Sleeping with your legs elevated is optimal 1:03:24.650,1:03:30.429 he says because whenever we stand up adrenalin is released to allow man to walk upright, 1:03:30.429,1:03:34.059 this is how our remote ancestors were able to walk upright. 1:03:34.059,1:03:41.059 Releasing adrenalin so he always sleeps with his legs elevated, he says de-adrenalising 1:03:41.559,1:03:45.689 when you stop the release of adrenalin while sleeping with the legs elevated, your body 1:03:45.689,1:03:52.689 can relax and repair itself, which you cannot do while the legs are elevated. He is just 1:03:54.179,1:03:57.779 contradicting himself. I'm gonna go with David Wolfe on this one. 1:03:57.779,1:04:04.779 Do you have any comment? Yes, again if we go back to NASA's experiments 1:04:05.630,1:04:12.630 with beds, they have encouraged and spent countless amount of money getting people to 1:04:13.859,1:04:16.039 sleep with their heads down and their feet up. 1:04:16.039,1:04:23.039 Only to examine how much they deteriorate. By Confining them to bed so in the long term 1:04:23.339,1:04:27.199 you know it's quite damaging but even in the short term it has been shown to be damaging. 1:04:27.199,1:04:34.089 In fact this used to be called Trendelenburgh and it has been shied away from now because 1:04:34.089,1:04:39.160 the literature is stating that it doesn't have any efficacy at all. 1:04:39.160,1:04:42.390 And how many years have you been doing this? 20 years 1:04:42.390,1:04:48.469 And the results of people with their head up have been how much I mean a lot? 1:04:48.469,1:04:54.079 Phenomenal results So it's counter-intuitive what David is talking 1:04:54.079,1:04:58.849 about. Improvements in Eyesight, you mentioned you 1:04:58.849,1:05:05.849 eyesight has anything changed there Patrick? No, nothing yet but I am hoping so. 1:05:07.169,1:05:09.759 So it's your bed you can do what you want. 1:05:09.759,1:05:14.959 So we can just raise the mattress of the bed write's an emailer, raising the whole upper 1:05:14.959,1:05:21.199 side seems difficult and a little dangerous regarding the stability of the whole bed but, 1:05:21.199,1:05:25.640 we only need to raise the mattress to reach the effect right? 1:05:25.640,1:05:32.640 No you wanna raise the legs right Andrew. Or if they want to raise the mattress as we 1:05:34.079,1:05:38.119 said is to make a wooden wedge to fit underneath the mattress. 1:05:38.119,1:05:42.609 And that will take away any risk of the bed falling apart. 1:05:42.609,1:05:49.609 Oh, your ok with that but not the foam though? I don't think the foam is the way to go to 1:05:51.449,1:05:53.789 be honest. Hmm 1:05:53.789,1:06:00.789 There are inflatable wedges as well but my Wife and I tried one of these and it was a 1:06:02.679,1:06:07.809 bit of an experience to say the least. I wouldn't complicate it folks, just put some 1:06:07.809,1:06:14.809 six inch blocks or books under your bed legs and unless your bed is not going to stand 1:06:16.269,1:06:23.269 that kind of stress it works great. 1:06:23.849,1:06:28.439 He says maybe Andrew and people know about this already, you need to contact directly 1:06:28.439,1:06:34.140 to a government and the media instead of a single foundation in order to promote it, 1:06:34.140,1:06:38.679 then earn real support, maybe even replace the word therapy so it can be accepted more 1:06:38.679,1:06:43.359 widely and easily as a normal natural thing to sleep. 1:06:43.359,1:06:45.049 Well good luck with governments Yes 1:06:45.049,1:06:52.049 What they tend to do is to refer you back to the Universities and the Universities look 1:06:54.689,1:06:58.759 in the literature and say well there is nothing in our literature that says this will work 1:06:58.759,1:07:03.849 so it can't possibly work and you just keep going round like washing in a tumble dryer. 1:07:03.849,1:07:07.369 You don't seem to get any further, although you do tend to get dried out a little. 1:07:07.369,1:07:13.549 Yeah and the Universities, love them, they are supported by the pharmaceutical companies 1:07:13.549,1:07:16.469 and the big corporations and that's where they get their funding. 1:07:16.469,1:07:19.949 Indeed they do yes They are just not gonna go there. 1:07:19.949,1:07:26.789 Just call it what it is, it is what it is. It's planet Earth You know, sorry but it is 1:07:26.789,1:07:31.069 what it is. We had an interesting comment, do you remember 1:07:31.069,1:07:36.239 me mentioning Joan Vernikos? Sure, because we have had her on the show 1:07:36.239,1:07:38.119 as well. Yes 1:07:38.119,1:07:45.119 Well Joan passed on the interview to her nephew who left a comment on Youtube and the Nephew 1:07:46.429,1:07:50.319 is Robert Taylor This is what he wrote: 1:07:50.319,1:07:56.910 Andrew, my Aunty Dr Joan Vernikos, showed me your video, re: X NASA extraordinair. which 1:07:56.910,1:08:03.390 she is. I plan to pass on your information to my patients here in Canada. Amazing video 1:08:03.390,1:08:07.959 Thank you Robert And what video was that? 1:08:07.959,1:08:14.959 The video I made of our interview. Yours truly talking to the screen. I thought 1:08:17.009,1:08:22.319 well that was a great way of sharing your station with the Youtube audience, 1:08:22.319,1:08:27.159 Yes well do it with this one too, put it up there because people find stuff on Youtube. 1:08:27.159,1:08:28.329 God knows how they find it. 1:08:28.329,1:08:35.329 I am getting in late here says Alexandria Just got home, I started Inclined Bed Therapy 1:08:35.719,1:08:42.589 in July and being a student of Ballet and living with hard wood and tile for decades 1:08:42.589,1:08:47.079 I have trouble with my feet burning and tingling at the end of the day. 1:08:47.079,1:08:52.599 The first night it was greatly diminished and continues to improve I have a five inch 1:08:52.599,1:08:57.750 incline, hope that's enough. The eight inch risers were too much. 1:08:57.750,1:09:00.739 Well she just needs to add another inch, to six inches right? 1:09:00.739,1:09:04.619 Yes Whatever she is comfortable with. 1:09:04.619,1:09:07.779 Do you think it would make a difference with the extra inch? 1:09:07.779,1:09:12.849 Yeah I think it would. Because you've done the science. 1:09:12.849,1:09:16.869 Well yes So there is a difference between five inches 1:09:16.869,1:09:23.789 and six inches? Well I have a friend who sleeps on what looks 1:09:23.789,1:09:30.789 like the North Face of the Eiger. I don't know how she manages to get to sleep but she 1:09:31.789,1:09:37.859 swears by it. This lady would wake up every morning and her hands would be paralysed. 1:09:37.859,1:09:42.799 Again another nurse. And she has a condition called psoriatic arthritis 1:09:42.799,1:09:49.799 which eats into the joints affects the skin and she's getting on a bit, she is no spring 1:09:49.839,1:09:56.090 chicken. She confessed to me that in 1995 she was almost ready for a wheelchair and 1:09:56.090,1:10:00.550 she has been great ever since. 1:10:00.550,1:10:04.750 Hi here is an email from Linda We have been sleeping on an inclined bed for 1:10:04.750,1:10:10.090 the last 3 years because we really love it, it seams to have got rid of my sleep apnoea, 1:10:10.090,1:10:15.000 my veins seem to be improving but have not gone away completely yet. I have trouble sleeping 1:10:15.000,1:10:18.079 on a flat bed now. It was funny because we had a bed with legs 1:10:18.079,1:10:23.250 under the middle of the bed and when we put the risers under it it was raised much higher. 1:10:23.250,1:10:27.510 Both of us ended up at the foot of the bed with our feet on the floor. 1:10:27.510,1:10:34.510 We discovered that it has been raised 18 inches. It's a good job we didn't have satin sheets. 1:10:37.340,1:10:38.909 Love the show Linda 1:10:38.909,1:10:41.770 That's funny Yes we are getting some good feedback. 1:10:41.770,1:10:47.690 Yes it takes folks a little while, let's see if I got another one here. 1:10:47.690,1:10:54.690 Could I just say thank you to all those who have given us feedback, I really appreciate 1:10:55.010,1:10:55.440 this. 1:10:55.440,1:10:56.739 Here is one. 1:10:56.739,1:11:02.960 The inclined bed has tipped the scale for me, my body was stuck it improved almost everything, 1:11:02.960,1:11:09.960 digestion, back, sleep, I need less energy I have more, is there a reason my eyes seem 1:11:10.739,1:11:13.199 to be more sensitive to sun light? 1:11:13.199,1:11:14.309 Wow That's interesting. 1:11:14.309,1:11:21.000 I have not heard that one before For me it could mean that they are improving 1:11:21.000,1:11:24.860 It could well be that more light is getting into the eyes. 1:11:24.860,1:11:31.860 Yes my vision has not changed yet so but I have only been doing it, when were you on 1:11:34.409,1:11:36.889 what month? Well it's been three months ago and you didn't 1:11:36.889,1:11:42.860 start for two weeks. No I didn't start for two weeks so a couple 1:11:42.860,1:11:46.559 of months. 1:11:46.559,1:11:51.670 Bridget writes back I have my box under my mattress is that ok? I just heard you say 1:11:51.670,1:11:58.670 that it needs to be under the legs. I have a old heavy antique bed, very heavy 1:11:59.150,1:12:05.630 so could not raise the legs. So she has just raised under her mattress. 1:12:05.630,1:12:10.320 Yeah, not ideal It's not ideal, Ok so what you do is get a 1:12:10.320,1:12:15.679 neighbour get yourself six inches and get a neighbour to lift up the bed while you put 1:12:15.679,1:12:20.059 the right? Or even use a trolley jack, perhaps you could 1:12:20.059,1:12:22.929 borrow a car jack? But not as good? 1:12:22.929,1:12:29.079 No Not as good as under the bed legs, so you 1:12:29.079,1:12:33.199 are going to get better improvements if you do it under the leg? 1:12:33.199,1:12:38.420 Yes just figure it and get someone to lift up the bed, put the six inch blocks under 1:12:38.420,1:12:45.420 there and do the other side and you will be done in two minutes. 1:12:46.750,1:12:47.150 Here's one 1:12:47.150,1:12:53.630 Due to the style and position of my bed, I have not fully implemented the six inches 1:12:53.630,1:12:58.820 of incline, but for now I have achieved 3 inches by putting an object under the edge 1:12:58.820,1:13:03.949 of my box spring, so far it has been a positive experience, the very next morning I felt my 1:13:03.949,1:13:10.949 nose was a bit clearer and my skeletal frame well aligned, no morning stiffness and the 1:13:11.420,1:13:16.869 very slight spider vein on my left has diminished as well. I definitely plan to implement the 1:13:16.869,1:13:19.199 full six inches. Great 1:13:19.199,1:13:25.449 I have a little challenge for you here, you will find this interesting Patrick. If you 1:13:25.449,1:13:32.449 lay flat on the floor what we have experienced is that our head feels as if it is going down 1:13:34.559,1:13:38.000 through the floor after being on an incline. Really? 1:13:38.000,1:13:40.070 Yeah That's interesting. 1:13:40.070,1:13:45.210 Here is one from Mickey We inclined our bed and after 3 weeks I developed 1:13:45.210,1:13:51.300 a haemorrhoid. I put a potato up there over night and it went away and back on the inclined 1:13:51.300,1:13:53.110 bed doing better. 1:13:53.110,1:13:57.730 A potato? I have never heard of that one, boy we hear it all here. 1:13:57.730,1:14:01.699 Well I don't know do you think that could cause the haemorrhoid 1:14:01.699,1:14:08.130 Could have been a coincidence? haemorrhoid again is a varicose vein, I would 1:14:08.130,1:14:13.159 imagine he obviously experienced it or she did. 1:14:13.159,1:14:17.130 There's usually no coincidence so it could have been. 1:14:17.130,1:14:24.130 Yeah But haemorrhoids are also detoxification in 1:14:24.270,1:14:27.679 a sense. Ok, but the potato? 1:14:27.679,1:14:31.650 Well I don't know Well I am trying to picture that one. 1:14:31.650,1:14:34.989 Evidently that's a cure for haemorrhoids putting a potato up your bum? 1:14:34.989,1:14:38.770 I've never heard that. I've never heard that, it's a first one for 1:14:38.770,1:14:42.619 me too. But we hear a lot of strange things with people 1:14:42.619,1:14:47.679 putting a lot of strange things up their bums here on One Radio Network. 1:14:47.679,1:14:51.360 Oxygen and coffee you know. Yes 1:14:51.360,1:14:58.360 It wouldn't, it seems counter intuitive isn't a haemorrhoid a circulation issue? 1:15:01.159,1:15:07.679 Yes it is And it should improve with an inclined bed 1:15:07.679,1:15:11.969 and does improve we know that. So I'm not sure about that one. 1:15:11.969,1:15:16.030 Maybe the initial shift of fluids Yeah could be. 1:15:16.030,1:15:22.270 But if a potato made it go away I guess we are all good, I'll bet it was fun too. 1:15:22.270,1:15:27.659 It's 27, I guess we should go now, this was good. 1:15:27.659,1:15:34.659 I have enjoyed it. Getting some feedback We have had another interesting report which 1:15:37.530,1:15:41.960 I can't mention on air because the guy wishes to remain anonymous. 1:15:41.960,1:15:46.900 Can't you do an anonymous report? I suppose we could. 1:15:46.900,1:15:53.349 What he has reported back is that he has a congenital which means it's from birth a problem 1:15:53.349,1:15:59.139 with potassium levels in his body and it's a bit like the goats that fall over, have 1:15:59.139,1:16:03.590 you ever seen those goats that fall over? I haven't seen a falling goat. 1:16:03.590,1:16:09.719 Yes, well there is a problem there, I forget the name of the condition but he has noticed 1:16:09.719,1:16:16.039 huge improvements again this is another congenital problem that requires further investigation. 1:16:16.039,1:16:22.909 And he is trying to encourage a few people that he knows to give it a test. But he has 1:16:22.909,1:16:26.590 got nothing but positive things to say about this. 1:16:26.590,1:16:33.429 He has tremendous problems with muscle stiffness. I.E it will take him six steps to get his 1:16:33.429,1:16:37.679 muscles working so that he doesn't fall over and now that doesn't seem to be so much of 1:16:37.679,1:16:43.289 a problem. He still get's some stiffness but it is no where near the same as it was before, 1:16:43.289,1:16:48.110 it's no where near as aggressive as it was before and he has noticed that he is able 1:16:48.110,1:16:53.489 to walk up and down stairs a lot easier as well so again huge improvements in something 1:16:53.489,1:16:55.670 that the guy has had from birth. Excellent 1:16:55.670,1:17:02.670 Well Andrew you are a pleasure to talk to, his website http://inclinedbedtherapy.com. 1:17:02.739,1:17:06.780 Pass on these links, this is good stuff to everyone that you care about and then when 1:17:06.780,1:17:13.780 you try it go on to our webpage underneath the show and put in the comments section there 1:17:14.300,1:17:20.369 so that every body can here your experience. Good bad or indifferent to Andrew Fletcher's 1:17:20.369,1:17:27.159 experiment and discovery Inclined Bed Therapy for the last 20 years. 1:17:27.159,1:17:28.969 Andrew thanks a lot. Thank you Patrick 1:17:28.969,1:17:33.230 Sat hi to the Queen mum when you see her. I will try my best 1:17:33.230,1:17:37.780 Tell her we love her and say hi to all of the Scots who are going to see if they can 1:17:37.780,1:17:41.119 become Mel Gibson in Braveheart tomorrow let's see. 1:17:41.119,1:17:48.119 I was just thinking about that potato, if she had a string vest it could come out as 1:17:48.599,1:17:51.000 chips. Yes chips, fish and chips. 1:17:51.000,1:17:54.260 Ok Andrew we will see you later. Ok bye Patrick 1:17:54.260,1:17:55.710 Andrew Fletcher, Potato up the bum, ohh my 1:17:55.710,1:17:59.070 Ok it's exactly 11.30 central time, that was an hour and a half of great information. 1:17:59.070,1:18:05.880 Stephanie Seneff I love you all very much Thank you mucho 1:18:05.880,1:18:12.880 I think we are going to be talking about cancer tomorrow. 1:18:16.929,1:18:23.929 Thanks to Sharon for setting up people like Andrew and Stephanie Seneff 1:18:26.710,1:18:33.710 See you all tomorrow at http://oneradionetwork,com