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According to Andrew K Fletcher, who has spent 20 years researching circulation and how gravity is the driving force. We have all learned in school that we are struggling against gravity. Andrew discovered that there is a slight density difference between fluids flowing down and fluids flowing back up our circulatory systems, including the lymphatic system and cerebrospinal fluid system, The density changes occur due to evaporation from our skin, our lungs, sinuses, eyes, and the rest of the respiratory tract. The medical profession erroneously believe that gravity acts equally in the ascending and descending limbs of the circulation. Andrew explains why this is simply not the case. he also investigated the History of sleep to find answers to why without any supporting positive science we began to sleep on flat beds today. His research revealed that the Pharaohs in Ancient Egypt and their people slept with the head end of their beds raised 15 cm / 6 inches at the head end.
In the Tudor period, laying down to sleep flat was avoided because of the plagues, particularly if you were infected by the sweating sickness, meant that you would be dead by morning. Guards were placed at bedsides to prevent people from laying down flat and as a result many survived.
His exciting sleep posture discovery has helped countless people to regain their health, often against impossible odds, simply by raising the head end of their bed by around 6 inches or 15cm, causing the entire bed to slope down from head to toe at an angle of approximately 5 degrees to the horizontal.
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Andrew talks about how IBT has helped to boost the immune system and how astronauts in space, removed from gravity experience a disrupted immune system, he further explains how NASA and other space programs re-create the serious damaging effects of being in space, here on Earth, simply by paying people to sleep head down and horizontal for sometimes months on end. NASA have shown that space travel accelerates the ageing process to a staggering 10 x faster than here on Earth and if that is not enough to worry us, he explains that they have also shown the same degenerative affects can be reproduced simply by preventing us from standing up and keeping us in bed.

Andrew explains how tall trees circulate sap using the density changes that take place at the leaf as a result of transpiration (Evaporated water) which makes far more sense than what we are teaching students in school.

Clive De Carle: https://www.facebook.com/AncientPurity

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"Clive" Hello it's Clive De Carle here with
another episode of Solutions Revolution, Thank

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you all very much for joining us and today
I am very happy to invite Andrew K Fletcher

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on to the show and Andrew is an expert in
Inclined Bed Therapy http://inclinedbedtherapy.com

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Now if you haven't heard of this it really
is rather a magic thing

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I came across it something like 15 years ago
and I love it, I really really like it.

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But other people are experiencing huge benefits
from a health perspective so welcome Andrew

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Thank's for that Clive, It's not magic it's
science and hopefully I can explain it in

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a way that it makes sense to everyone.
Excellent Thank you. So you discovered this

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about 20 years ago I think?
Yes it was rather an incredible journey

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For example: Who Told Humans That We Should
Sleep On A Flat Bed?

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Yeah good point. So when every I go camping
I am always drawn to a very slight incline

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so that my head is higher and I have heard
you say that animals generally sleep on an

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incline?
Yes if you look around the fields, if there

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is a hill side you will see cattle and sheep
and they will all be facing up hill if they

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are lying down. Sheep seem to know a great
deal about sleeping and a great deal more

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than we do. If you look at chimpanzees in
the wild or in the zoo as well. In the wild

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they will be up in nests and the branches
are not flat and they tend to sleep with their

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heads up and gorillas will sleep resting up
against a tree. The evidence is all there

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you just have to learn to look around
And of course a lot of people used to sleep

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in chairs, didn't they, in the old days, quite
often as I understand it.

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I also understand that people used to have
two sleeps a night quite often.

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So tell us some more about the inclined bed
therapy and what it actually is first of all

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so people know what we are talking about.
Yeah well it is first of all simply raising

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the head end of the bed up six inches or 15
cms, if you are metrically "Inclined" and

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you raise the bed at the head end causing
the whole bed to slope down from head to toe.

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A lot of people make the mistake and say I
have tried Inclined Bed Therapy and it hasn't

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worked for me and then when you dig around
a little bit and ask a few questions they

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tend to tell you that they raised the upper
half of the bed and have their legs raised

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or flat, or have one of these new fangled
electric beds and some people have their knees

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up in the air on these electric machines,
so they have not actually tried the inclined

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bed.
Now if you are sleeping with the bed folded

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in the middle IE an electric bed, what you
are doing is you are compressing the spine.

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If you are on an angled bed then you are doing
the exact opposite, you are decompressing

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the spine, but you are doing a great deal
more as well.

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Because I had worked out how gravity was driving
the circulation in the body. A tall claim

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I know but if you listen up you will learn
what I learned.

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If the literature states that gravity doesn't
play a role in circulation because it acts

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equally on the blood flowing down as it does
on the blood flowing up, same with the lymphatic

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system, same with cerebrospinal fluid. But
what they have failed to take into account

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is that for every breath we take we evaporate
water from the lungs and that water is donated

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by the blood that flows through the lungs,
so as the blood flows through the lungs it

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becomes denser on exiting, so that denser
blood then passes through the heart and enters

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the main artery, so it's a bit like placing
a pinch of salt at the top of the blood tree.

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And then gravity if we are the right way around
according to gravity, I.E. head up and feet

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down, standing, sitting correctly, gravity
will pull on those density changes and drag

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on the blood causing it to be pulled down
which gives the heart a bit of a boost. And

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it pulls the salts and the minerals through
the kidneys a little bit more efficiently

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and then the blood that passes through the
renal system is less dense having got rid

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of the salts that we excrete in the urine
so the blood flowing up will always be more

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dilute than the blood flowing down. It's very
simple really.

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And the same applies to the lymphatic system
and the same applies to the cerebrospinal

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fluid, in fact there is a paper just been
published by Leszek Herbowski and he attributes,

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well he has done some temperature checks on
the cerebrospinal fluid and he has written

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a paper Thermodynamic Approach to Cerebrospinal
Fluid Circulation saying that the cerebrospinal

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fluid that flows down is always denser than
the cerebrospinal fluid that returns back

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up.
Right very interesting and so this is going

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to presumably give your heart a rest, my Step
mother for instance died in her sleep of a

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heart attack, had she have had an inclined
bed would she have stood a better chance do

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you think?
Well, I am just looking at my notes here and

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one of the things I have to mention is that
the medical profession actually know how harmful

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and how dangerous a flat bed is. In fact all
of the literature states that it's the last

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thing on Earth that you want to do is spend
time in bed.

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Around 3.30 in the morning the body temperature
dips by 2 degrees, that is the time that most

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people will pass away in their sleep. Now
when we, my wife and I tested our mouth temperature

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in exactly the same manner that the graph
was compiled of in the literature, there was

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no 2 degree drop in our temperature, our temperature
staid level, well you have peaks and troughs

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but it didn't drop off the 2 degrees that
the flat bed produced.

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How very interesting, so would you get long
term benefits to your heart, presumably you

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must do?
Yes, again the heart rate was really important

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during the initial research, so I had two
reliable volunteers, the two bull terriers,

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fast asleep, they were lying horizontal and
I measured their heart rates and then I got

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them to sleep, well it's not difficult getting
the bull terrier to sleep, so I measured their

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heart rates while they were on an angle and
their heart rate and their respiration rate

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decreased. The heart rate decreased by 10
- 12 beats per minute and respiration rates

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decreased by 4-5 breaths per minute
So the next thing step was to see if the same

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applied to humans. I measured my sons while
they were asleep and I measured my wife's

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while she was asleep and then she did the
same for me. And we found and this is really

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interesting because our heart rate and our
respiration rate decreased by exactly the

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same rate that the bull terriers had shown.
How interesting, so that should relate in

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the end to longer life shouldn't if you are
not.

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I would presume so but there is no claim for
immortality with IBT because there is one

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thing for sure we will all die.
It appears that way Yeah.

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Yeah
It's been a fascinating adventure, another

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spin off which is pertinent to today's problems
with the ebola virus, is that a great number

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of people have reported that they don't seem
to get the infections that other people are

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getting i.e flu, coughs and colds and if they
do get them, they get over them within a very

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short space of time, when people around them
are dropping like flies. And one important

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report came last year which was from our Granddaughter
at nursery. The whole classroom had gone down

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with chicken pox, except she didn't.
Have you any explanations to why that may

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be?
Yes I have, for a virus to infect a cell,

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it usually infects through the fluids, it
would require the fluids to stagnate or slow

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down in order for it to penetrate the cells.
And I believe that if we keep that circulation

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running at it's optimum level then we can
skip a lot of the infections. But also the

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metabolic rate appears to have increased on
the inclined bed because people with cold

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feet and poor circulation, and cold hands,
suddenly find they have got nice toasty warm

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hands and feet, now viruses don't like increases
in body temperature, in fact that's our defence.

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Our body temperature goes up we get a fever
and we manage to kill the virus or defeat

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the virus.
I have know for some time that if, well if

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you think about the statement early with the
flat beds that can cause multiple organ failure,

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neurological damage, cause the bones to de-calcify,
and this is well known by the medical profession,

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but there is no research being done on what
an inclined bed could do for these same people.

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And I believe that if the ebola patients were
not put on these flat beds, I reckon they

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would fare a damned site better than they
are doing now.

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Well that's very interesting, wonder if it
is having an effect on the thyroid, because

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usually if the thyroid is low, people end
up with cold hands and feet. That's one of

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the symptoms of a low thyroid, possibly because
they have low iodine?

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Possibly because they have got low circulation
as well.

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Yes, and what other sorts of benefits have
you seen?

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How many hours do we have?
Two,

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Two hours
Erm, I don't know where to start really, I

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did a great deal of research with people with
multiple sclerosis

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Really?
Had some phenomenal results with ms,

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I had an original pilot study, where by we
had a small group of people with ms, Roger

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Kirk was the first guy to try the sloping
bed and Roger was in a very bad way, he couldn't

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walk. Roger's improvements were incredible,
he came with me to a local chapter in Kingskerswell

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of the MS Society, And we got a group of people
interested. Most people in the hall didn't

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receive the information that we were talking
about and carried on business as usual talking

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to each other and I could tell that it wasn't
striking any chords with them, but a small

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group of people did,
And that small group of people suddenly started

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to improve, incredible results.
Two ladies, one lady in Teignmouth and One

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lady In Paignton, both their ophthalmologists
wrote to me asking me how could placing two

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blocks of wood under someone's bed restore
someone's eyesight that was blind?

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Wow
Yeah, I had people walking that couldn't walk,

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sensitivity came back, bowel and bladder control
came back where it was lost, but in that same

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pilot study, because I had learned by now
that the medical profession were a bit defensive

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and would go to extreme lengths to protect
the status quo.

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I realised and it had been said that multiple
sclerosis could fluctuate anyway, i.e you

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can get relapsing and remitting ms, so they
could be having good days or bad days, in

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fact quite a few of the people on that study
were progressive ms, which didn't fluctuate,

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but nevertheless I included to patients with
spinal cord injury. Now it had been said that

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if one person with a complete spinal cord
injury regained sensitivity and regained function,

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then that would be a major breakthrough and
it would be accepted,

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Well the first two people with spinal cord
injury made incredible progress, they both

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got bowel and bladder control back, one gentleman
who is tetraplegic developed the ability to

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write and could write his own name, his own
address. When I met the guy his hands were

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locked up in two fists, so he couldn't move
his hands at all, he couldn't feel anything

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from the armpits down and his kids used to
dive all over him and being a former boxer,

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the guy was, it was very frustrating, he couldn't
defend himself and laughed it off most of

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the time. But all of a sudden he was able
to make crazy progress, so sensitivity returned

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below the level of the injury, sensitivity
returned to his hands and to his feet, it

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was just incredible.
And the other guy, John, who has passed away

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now, he died from lung cancer, but his spine
according to Tromans and Grundy at Salisbury

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was smashed to smitheries, he had fallen from
a two story building and literally shattered

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his spine. And he was told that he would never
be able to fend for himself, he would always

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be dependent on others and low and behold
he got a great deal of function back.

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His bladder for instance, he told me the one
day that he uses a bladder wash to flush out

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his urine and he noticed that he was able
to push the urine back up into the bladder

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bag, so he regained the ability to control
his urine but it's not just those two guys,

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there have been more people with spinal cord
injury that I have helped and they have also

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reported very similar improvements.
Now back to ms, I tried to work out why these

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people with ms were having significant results
and I did a great deal of research into ms

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and we have all heard about the myelin sheath,
but not a lot of people have heard that myelin

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behaves exactly like liquid crystal in an
lcd screen. Providing it is in it's liquid

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state it functions, now we have talked about
circulation and if you can compromise circulation,

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i.e, cause those fluids to slow down or stagnate,
then that circulation is compromised and those

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crystals will no longer be liquid and become
solid, and when they become solid, they become

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visible under an mri scan. So I suspect that
the circulation increasing would eventually

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re-establish the liquidity of this myelin.
Are you there?

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Yes, well that's amazing and I believe also
that people who are having to urinate at night

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you know just because they are getting old,
actually it's usually a nutrient deficiency,

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but they are also getting positive results?
Yes that was another report that came in many

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times, nocturia I think they call it. And
infant bed wetting as well.

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I have explained that the two degree temperature
drop and if we feel cold we need to urinate

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but if we are not cold then we don't need
to urinate and also because we have increased

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the metabolic rate, evaporation is taking
place more effectively from our lungs and

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from our skin and if we are evaporating more
water away then there is less urine being

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produced. One caveat to that is that if someone
has oedema, ie they have swollen legs and

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swollen hands and swollen feet, the medical
profession will recommend raising the legs.

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Now that's great because that shifts the fluid
from the swollen limbs back into the trunk,

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but it doesn't actually push it back into
the circulation, but the sloping bed does

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the opposite, if we raise the head end of
the bed and lower the legs, then what we have

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seen time and time again is that that excess
fluid in the body is drawn back into the circulation

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through the venous return, whipped around
the circulation and flushed out by the bladder.

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So initially if someone has a great deal of
fluid, they will probably experience none-stop

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urination for quite some time.
How long would quite some time be?

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Well it can go on for 3 or 4 days. There's
a guy over in Torquay, when I met the guy

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he was severely swollen, the chap had Parkinson's
disease and when I met him his limbs were

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like giant water balloons. He couldn't walk,
the couple were struggling to try to get him

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to the bathroom and back to his seat. Getting
him up stairs was a nightmare and we tilted

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the bed and then over the course of a few
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he had lost that much fluid.
His wife was ringing up frantic the one day

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saying that I don't know how to stop my husband
from urinating, and yet all of the time the

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fluid was being drawn back into the circulation.
And this was backed up by a guy called Peter

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Lewis a vascular surgeon, because he did exactly
the same, he had head about what had happened

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to this guy. I had met Lewis at his home along
with another vascular surgeon called Celeste

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from Trinidad and I explained all about the
mechanics, how the body works and how the

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circulation fitted with the new theory and
he was fascinated, then he put me to the test,

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because he had a lady with a severely swollen
body and ascites, which is the abdominal cavity

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fills with fluid because of liver problems.
And he went back to the hospital because he

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had tried diuretics and nothing had worked
and when he came back he said he couldn't

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believe the changes in the lady. He said it
was incredible and that he had never seen

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anything like it.
Well it's good to hear that doctors are listening.

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Yeah, there is a great deal of Doctors now
standing up and actually doing something with

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this. It has been published in a few doctors
books as well.

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Well that's good, the worst case of swollen
limbs that I have seen is lymph oedema.

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Yes
It would clear lymph oedema would it?

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I would imagine that it would, I have not
come across a case of lymph-oedema yet. Elephant

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tiasis is another good example of that and
I often thought that these people that have

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got these huge problems with their legs would...
Actually, My Father was taken ill in hospital,

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he has passed away now he had pancreatic cancer.
While he was in hospital on the flat bed his

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legs were swelling up to the point where his
pyjamas had to be cut. I tried to lift one

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of his legs up and I couldn't lift his leg
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Wow,
His kidneys had packed up, his liver had packed

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up and we were told that it was a matter of
hours before you know, my Father would pass

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away and he was in a coma and I fought tooth
and nail with the doctors and the nurses at

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Russells Hall Hospital and I was very stubborn
and insisted that his bed was put on an angle

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and every time I turned my back they had put
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I got really angry with these people but anyway,
we tilted his bed and within hours his circulation

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had increased that much that the bloody urine
that he was producing the tar urine ran clear

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and yellow, so his kidneys had began functioning
again and over the course of a few days the

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yellowness was going from his skin and his
eyes, so his liver was functioning again and

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he come out of his coma as well.
And then he came home and had an extra 8 months

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of life.
Wow, amazing.

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Yeah
Absolutely amazing.

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That's my own Father, unfortunately, you know,
they did put a stent in after they told me

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that there was nothing that could be done
for my dad. And I said I am going home to

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research this and as soon as I got through
the door, now that's a 200 mile journey, the

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phone rang and it was the doctor who said
we are putting a stent in for your dad. So

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there was a surgical procedure that could
have been done and yet they were trying to

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avoid it and deny it.
Stent's unfortunately are very seldom as effective

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as they say.
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So the oedema, how does that work with the
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that's because the pressure in the venous
return is greater than the pressure in the

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surrounding tissue.
So because of the semi-permiability of the

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veins, the fluid is being pushed by the pressure
into the surrounding tissue. Now when we tilt

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the bed as I have said previously, we change
the density of the blood which then in the

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arteries, which pass through the lungs, that
arterial blood is then influenced by gravity

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and pulled upon and that applies tension to
to every molecule in that blood and that tension

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stretches back to the venous return all the
way back through the kidneys and back to its

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self. So affecting one molecule will have
a chain effect on every molecule of blood

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in the body.
Now if we are applying a downward pressure

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by gravity to the arterial blood, which is
dragging on the density changes, we are applying

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tension to the venous return and if we apply
tension to the venous return, the blood starts

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to pull the walls in. Now the first evidence
for this happened very quickly. Within 4 weeks

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of tilting our bed, my wife's varicose vein
went flat and so did a nurses called Stephanie

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Ness.
Her varicose vein went flat as well.

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And that proved to me that we had nailed something
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And if we apply tension we are also increasing
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the arterial side, so we are increasing the
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But for every action there must be a reaction,
we a re decreasing the venous return pressure.

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We are in fact lowering the pressure lower
than the surrounding tissue. So the excess

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fluids migrate from the surrounding tissues
back into the veins, around the circulation

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through the kidneys, where they are filtered
and the spent salts are excreted in the urine.

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And if you stand there at the toilet and decant
your urine, your hot urine down the pan, you

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will see that it sinks straight to the bottom
of the toilet.

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Now you would think that because it is warmer
it would float on the surface, but it contains

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a great deal of minerals and salts so it is
heavier and it sinks.

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And have you had any people with end stage
kidney failure get their kidney function back.

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Not been tested for dialysis, although I have
tried and tried with a friend in fact I have

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a bit of a problem with my own kidneys, I
have a polycistic kidney.

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Polycystic, generally has a relationship with
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I am taking Lugols Iodine
How many drops are you taking?

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2 in the morning 2 in the evening.
And it's what I have made myself, it's a proper

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10%, it's not the 10% that people are trading.
You think people are trading 10% Lugols that

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isn't?
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That's interesting, have they just got the
formula wrong or deliberate do you think?

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No I think it's they have got the formula
wrong.

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I found a recipe from a guy called Israel
on the net, and of course I had a quick play

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around with the maths to see if he had done
it right and yeah it made a great deal of

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sense what he was saying so I made my own.
Fair enough

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Well at least I know what is in it.
Yes yes quite.

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I think iodine is one of the most important
elements out there, particularly Lugol's with

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potassium iodide added to the elemental iodine
and all the Fukushima radiation coming out,

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absolutely essential that we have enough iodine
to stop the radiation getting into the iodine

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receptors.
People don't seem to understand that radiation

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is not nearly as worrying if you have full
nutrition. People don't realise that we have

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the receptors but if the receptors are full
the radioactive iodine will just float on

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past.
Yeah it's a bit like the natural progesterone.

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I have first hand experience with this and
have seen uterine fibroids shrivel up and

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virtually vanish. And it's the same principle
because the receptors from the progesterone

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are the same that the oestrogen uses to make
the benign tumours grow, so we gave it a whirl

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and yeah it works.
Well people are being barraged by oestrogen

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at the moment, mainly I think in bread products,
I don't know whether you have looked at the

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labels on packeted breads in the supermarket?
Every single packet of bread is only partly

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wheat. Most of them are about 40 to 45 % soya.
Wow I didn't know that.

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Yeah I know, I went into the supermarkets
to do some filming, they chucked me out but

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every loaf of bread, the whole lot have been
cut with soya so you know because Hovis used

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to say whole-wheat but it doesn't any more
it says wholemeal.

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That's really interesting, thanks for that.
Then because soya is so cheap they feed it

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to chickens so the chickens and the eggs are
absolutely laced with omega 6. So a chicken

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that has been fed soya will have about 20
times more omega 6 than would be safe, that

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would be normal.
So when they use that phrase, eggs is eggs,

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these days eggs aren't eggs they are quite
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We used to see cow's in the fields but we
don't see those so often now, we put them

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in factories and the poor cows are being fed
soya, never seeing the sun, never knowing

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what grass looks like and we are being fed
this rubbish.

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And as a result, people are being hugely poisoned.
And the people that are eating soya products

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like burgers and so on are in real trouble.
And worse still are the babies that are being

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fed on soya formula, I think it's about 28
years ago or something that soya formula first

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came on the market for babies who were allergic
to cows milk and now the children 25 to 26

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years old at the oldest and they all have
one big problem which is great difficulty

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in reproducing because their hormonal cycle
has been damaged by the oestrogen and then

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further damaged by all the chlorine and the
bromine and possibly fluoride that they are

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getting as well.
Most peoples hormones are being made of the

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wrong material these days, which explains
the thyroid epidemic that is rampant out there.

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The sad thing is that in the old days before
levothyroxine, Doctors used to give dried

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desiccated animal thyroid, maybe one grain
or two grains a very small amount and that

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had all the balanced of t4 t3 t2 and so on,
but now with levothyroxin which has just got

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t4 and although it helps peoples symptoms,
it means they are on it for life and they

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are going to have a shorter life and have
a lot of problems.

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I try to encourage people to research lugols
if they have a thyroid problem and to consider

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the natural alternatives, unfortunately the
GP isn't allowed to legally prescribe natural

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thyroid like their predecessors used to but
they have no choice but to give a drug and

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it is very very sad really, they could be
a lot healthier, the biggest problem is the

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lack of iodine.
I don't really know, but over in Japan, whereas

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in England 90% of menopausal woman report
hot flushes and the usual menopausal symptoms,

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whereas in Japan only 10% of women experience
those symptoms of hot flushes and Japanese

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woman only get about a tenth of the cancer
rate of English woman for example.

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And it's been tied down now to the fact they
are eating so much seaweed and so much fish

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that they are getting the equivalent of two
drops of lugols a day.

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So have you noticed any differences after
taking iodine? Clearer thinking maybe?

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The sloping bed is er, I know what you are
saying about the lugols but no I haven't noticed

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any difference with clearer thinking, but
I am pretty sure my Granddaughter is absolutely

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incredible, she has been on the sloping bed
from conception, right through to five years

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of age and she is incredible, she is absolutely
incredible and she has been for many years.

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My new Granddaughter she is on a sloping bed
again and I insist on this actually because

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I am pretty damned sure that putting a baby
on a flat bed will cause Sudden Infant Death

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Syndrome SIDS and I am absolutely certain
that it's doing something for our mental capacity,

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for example a recent report that came through
today a lady who wrote that I thought my life

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was over, she said I was suicideing on ice
cream and I tilted the bed in 2009 and she

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said that it took me a long time to tilt the
bed and I got around to doing it and it was

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like a lightbulb had switched on she lost
a hundred pounds in weight.

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Wow that's amazing is that common to lose
weight?

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What we found in the early days was really
interesting with myself and a good friend

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of mine named Billy. We both titled the beds
and I talked him into tilting his bed and

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this was in the early days and we both noticed
that our weight went up.

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Went up?
Yeah

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and the interesting thing is our clothes became
loose.

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So you were gaining muscle in that case?
Well and bone density, so your bone density

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goes up and your muscle density goes up but
we were definitely burning the fat.

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How interesting
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And with brain function are you noticing that
people with dementia or with Alzheimer's getting

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any improvements?
Well with short term memory loss one of the

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ladies, well it was actually it was the lady
who recovered her eyesight, in Teignmouth

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with multiple sclerosis, she said, I don't
know whether this has anything to do with

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the sloping bed she said, but when I walk
to the door to do something, by the time I

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got to the door, I would have forgotten what
it was and I would spend as long as I liked

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and I wouldn't be able to remember what it
was that I went to the door for. She said

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and now, and this was only after a month or
so, I walk to the door, she said and I'll

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forget just the same as anyone else would
do and she said; and I pause, and then I can

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remember what it is I wanted to do., so her
short term memory function had improved. And

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I think that demands a study in itself.
Well absolutely, funny enough when I am trying

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to assess whether people are low on iodine,
I ask them do you remember where you put your

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car keys? Do you remember why you walked into
a room? and obviously you know that's a common

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thing. I found that most people after 3 months
of iodine, they now remember where they put

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their car keys and why they walked in the
room so maybe, the two combined we will have

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a super memory keeper.
So what about dementia and Altzheimer's

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Not getting any reports, it's not something
I have focused on, again, what I am trying

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to do is focus on things that you will get
reports back from.

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If I help someone with dementia or someone
with a memory problem, what's the chances

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of them reporting back to me? Because this
is a huge problem with people working outside

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of the medical profession because people don't
adhere to the protocols that we set out. In

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fact the medical profession have the same
problem.

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What about the length of time that you sleep,
do you find that you get a more restful nights

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sleep and don't sleep so long or any changes
like that?

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I do tend to wake up in the night and get
up and walk around and get back into bed.

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But I am doing that purposefully because I
have realised the importance of being active

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and moving around rather than a sedentary
lifestyle. It's very important.

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But just one thing on the Intelligence side,
which I think you will find interesting.

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The circulation changed when we stood up.
Are you religous or...

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No
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So when we were walking around on all fours,
the circulation foramina were in the back

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of the head. These are the holes in the skull
that carry the vessels to and from the scalp

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to and from the brain and when we stood up
according to Dean Falk, she is a scientist

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over in America who has a theory called the
Radiator Theory, which I disagree with.

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When we stood up Dean Falk measured where
the foramina, took notice of where the formaina

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where on the skulls that had changed like
on homo-erectus and those foramini had migrated

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to the top of the skull, so the circulation
through the brain had completely changed when

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we stood up.
Now another great scientist Michel Cabanac,

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Professor Michel Cabanac. He did some experiments
with a guy on an exercise cycle and he placed

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a Doppler probe where the eye meets the nose.
He got the guy to work out and it showed normal

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blood flow from the brain out to the skin.
But when the guy becomes overheated on the

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cycle, the blood flow actually changes direction.
It's now flowing from the skin back through

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the brain.
There are no valves in those vessels, so something

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has changed the circulation. Now Falk says
the brain decides where it wants to send the

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circulation.
I am saying that because of the evaporative

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heat loss caused by the exercise, changed
the density of the fluids in the blood and

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the cerebrospinal fluid and it was actually
changed sufficiently enough for it to flow

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back against the pressure of the heart.
Right

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So circulation improves brain function. So
if we have the bed on an angle, we are again

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improving circulation.
See, what I am trying to convey to anyone

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that is willing to listen is we have an assumption
that bed's should be flat.

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Now if we go back to history, there is a brilliant
drawing with a hospital in Constantinople

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in the 13th century and it shows rows of Inclined
Beds. It is perfectly obvious that the artist

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hasn't got mistaken. They are inclined, because
the nurse standing next to the bed, you can

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actually see that it is up level almost level
with her shoulders at the head end. At the

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foot end you can see that the legs are definitely
shorter.

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So Constantinople at that time were renowned
for being very successful medical people.

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Which is really interesting.
But if we go back further still, the ancient

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Egyptians, 5 thousand years ago, when we pulled
out the beds from the Egyptian Tombs, they

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were all raised at the head end. They were
all higher than the foot end. Even Tutankhamen's

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camping bed, he had a fold up camping bed
and that was built on an incline.

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No one bothered to question why these beds
were inclined? I guess they all had diamonds

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and gold and jewels in their hands and very
little in their brains.

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Right
Talk to me a little bit more about eyesight

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and how common might it be to repair a macular.
I have a friend over in Brixham and he has

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diabetes and he had bleeding from the back
of the eyes and he was told that he needed

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surgery and the guy is 82, he was told that
he needed laser surgery, and that it might

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not be successful and that eyes were worsening
and his eyes healed up all by themselves.

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And during a holiday he went away for a holiday
and then slept flat the eyes started to bleed

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again from the back of his eyes.
And since he has been back on an inclined

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bed they have stopped bleeding again.
But interestingly enough, while he has been

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on the sloping bed, his sugar levels have
been dropping as well. And this was confirmed

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00:42:28,089 --> 00:42:35,089
in, well it's the first study, I am really
really grateful to a guy called Tetaaki Yee

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00:42:36,460 --> 00:42:43,460
Ting and he is from an Island called Pohnpei,
in Micronesia, which is just North East of

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Australia and they have a tremendous problem
with obesity in this place, due to the introduction

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of the American diet and possibly soya that
you mentioned. Well, it's a pandemic on the

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island, but he got 11 patients to tilt their
beds. Right across the board the sugar levels

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dropped. Now just by tilting the bed, they
didn't make any dietary changes. But two of

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them, he noticed that their sugar levels had
gone up at one point and he investigated why

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they should go in the opposite direction and
they both admitted that they hadn't been on

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the sloping bed and one had been binging out
at a wedding for 2 days and the other had

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00:43:29,579 --> 00:43:34,550
been binging out at a funeral for 2 days and
apparently when they went back to the inclined

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bed, their sugar levels come down as well.
So increasing the functionality of the pancreas?

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00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,760
Yes
And have you heard of anybody getting completely

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over their diabetes?
Well again this guy in Brixham his insulin,

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he takes insulin and he has noticed, well
both of them have noticed that the insulin

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00:44:04,349 --> 00:44:11,349
injection levels have dropped from 26 twice
a day of the slow and a dose of the fast.

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00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:24,880
He has skipped the fast insulin and skipped
the one dose of the slow and I think he is

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on about 15 or 16 units now.
So that's a massive improvement from just

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tilting the bed. But of course diet plays
a roll as we know with diabetes.

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00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:44,650
Well very much so. I am type one diabetic,
myself and it's.

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Have you noticed any change?
No not really.

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00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:55,450
No I don't think so.
Just to clarify to people, I understand that

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the six inch measurement is to be adhered
to, five inches or seven inches does not work

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as good?
No, it all depends on the length of the bed,

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00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,550
if you have got a King-sized bed you will
probably have to raise your bed you will probably

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have to raise the bed 7 or 7 and a half inches.
Oh I see

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00:45:24,730 --> 00:45:29,010
Because whatever the length of the bed is,
if you have got a cot to prevent sudden infant

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00:45:29,010 --> 00:45:34,450
death syndrome, they you will probably need
to raise that cot about 3 or 4 inches at the

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00:45:34,450 --> 00:45:38,420
head end.
So it all depends on the length of the bed

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00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:41,980
really.
I have a friend who she sleeps on what could

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be the North face of the eiger.
I just shake ny head when I see her bed. But

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00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:57,220
she is 72 years young and back in 1995 she
was ready for a wheelchair and she has a condition

435
00:46:00,190 --> 00:46:06,040
called psoriatic arthritis, which eats into
her finger nails and toe nails and psoriasis

436
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:11,700
all over her body and in her hair and she
was racked with pain, she would get up every

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00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:16,319
morning and she would immerse her hands in
hot water just to get the hands working. And

438
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:21,599
it would take about an hour and a half to
get her hands working. Then she would bite

439
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:28,599
the bullet and do what she could and then
she heard me talking to this guy with who

440
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,990
was staying with her at the time, this guy
with the spinal cord injury and this lady

441
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:39,410
was a nurse. So she stood and listened and
she said who have you got coming down here

442
00:46:39,410 --> 00:46:45,780
now, somebody talking another load of old
bull? But she sat there and she listened and

443
00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:50,569
you could see that the penny had dropped.
And she tilted her own bed, she didn't say

444
00:46:50,569 --> 00:46:56,910
anything to anybody, but she got up the next
morning and no paralysis in her hands and

445
00:46:56,910 --> 00:47:02,450
it hasn't come back. And she has got virtually
no psoriasis on her body now. Occasionally

446
00:47:02,450 --> 00:47:06,550
she will get a little rosette on the base
of her spine and that's it.

447
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:13,470
Wow that's amazing and why do you think that
the psoriasis went away, what do you think

448
00:47:13,470 --> 00:47:17,560
the mechanism going on there is?
Psoriasis skin contains a great deal more

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00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:24,560
sodium and potassium than normal healthy skin,
so the sloping bed could have actually helped

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00:47:25,569 --> 00:47:30,890
those minerals to migrate away from the skin
surface. You know, like when you put the lugols

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00:47:30,890 --> 00:47:37,819
on the skin and it vanishes, the same could
be happening with the mineral salts which

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00:47:37,819 --> 00:47:44,819
are probably causing the skin to dessicate.
Going back to the Lugol's iodine, how long

453
00:47:49,530 --> 00:47:53,460
have you been doing four drops because four
drops is quite a lot?

454
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:55,480
Five days
Oh that's fine

455
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:02,480
Are you taking selenium as well?
Not at the moment. I am reluctant to eat Brazil

456
00:48:02,940 --> 00:48:07,490
nuts because I a bit worried about them being
irradiated.

457
00:48:07,490 --> 00:48:14,490
Yes, who knows what they are doing radiation
wise, I don't know? There are a number of

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00:48:15,210 --> 00:48:22,210
ways to get selenium in supplement form. Those
made from yeast which is the type I sell on

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00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,920
my website.
Yes

460
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:30,150
Because when you take iodine it depletes your
selenium level, it is a really good idea to

461
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:37,150
take selenium at the same time.
You do get selenium from meat and eggs.

462
00:48:37,290 --> 00:48:44,290
Well yes indeed but even so, really I try
to recommend supplementing with anything if

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00:48:46,940 --> 00:48:53,940
they can afford it is to take the whole set
of 90 odd nutrients at once because there

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00:48:54,500 --> 00:49:01,099
are so many people low on just one mineral
and many people are low on selenium because

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00:49:01,099 --> 00:49:04,760
it just isn't there in the soils like it used
to be.

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00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:10,790
There would be a huge reduction in prostate
issues if we all had a good mineral balance

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00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:17,790
with selenium and zinc for example.
Tell me more of the results that you are getting,

468
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:22,240
it really is an amazing isn't it, just such
a simple thing can have such a dramatic affect

469
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:29,240
it is incredible, I can't think of anything
else that doesn't cost any money, it's free!

470
00:49:29,859 --> 00:49:34,760
That's the problem. because it's free people
think it's worthless but what a mistake that

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00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,460
is.
Well clearly, so tell me about some of the

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00:49:39,460 --> 00:49:42,109
other wonderful things you have seen.
Well this guy that I mentioned with Parkinson's.

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00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:49,109
Now Parkinson's is really interesting because
in the early stages, the person affected by

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the Parkinson's can wake up paralysed in the
morning so they get morning paralysis,

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00:49:54,550 --> 00:49:58,559
What happens is the partner usually drags
them up the bed and sits them up a little

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00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:02,990
bit and they come around a little bit more,
then they swing their legs out over the bed

477
00:50:02,990 --> 00:50:06,540
and get them sitting up and they come around
a little bit more. Then they get them to stand

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00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:12,040
and they come around a little bit more, then
they get them to shuffle around and their

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00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,230
gait improves and they start walking around
and by the end of the day they are walking

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00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:20,319
around like you and I.
And then they go back to their flat beds and

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00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:25,579
screw it all up again.
How interesting.

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00:50:25,579 --> 00:50:31,490
Yes
Night time paralysis that has been reduced,

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00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:37,099
when people wake up and their body is in a
catatonic state.

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00:50:37,099 --> 00:50:44,099
My wife suffers with it but furtunately since
the bed has been on an angle she very rarely

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00:50:47,859 --> 00:50:52,900
gets a problem with this.
Now it was happening 4 or 5 sometimes 6 times

486
00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:59,900
in a night and she could be getting it every
day and it has made such a huge difference

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00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:09,930
just preventing that.
What else? I really don't know where to start.

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00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:19,599
Let me just ask you on ms and Parkinson's
have you seen any body get anywhere close

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00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:26,290
to completely reversing it?
Well, I am glad you brought me back to that

490
00:51:26,290 --> 00:51:29,849
because I tend to drift off because it's quite
a complicated subject.

491
00:51:29,849 --> 00:51:35,160
Back to the guy with Parkinson's who we tilted
his bed.

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00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:42,160
Apart from all the fluid that the guy had
lost, I get a phone call saying that I turned

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00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:50,040
over in bed and looked at my husbands face
and that Parkinson's mask which she had grown

494
00:51:50,780 --> 00:51:57,380
to recognise every night that she went to
bed wasn't there, his face was relaxed and

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00:51:57,380 --> 00:52:03,440
it looked like her own husband had come back.
So she shook him and she said that she had

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00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,660
had the first conversation with her husband
in years, it was incredible.

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00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:15,660
And then a few more weeks went passed and
his walking was improving all of the time,

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00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:22,890
I was getting reports back all of the time
and they couldn't believe the changes. His

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00:52:22,890 --> 00:52:28,180
attention span when I met the guy was about
1 minute at best and then he would go into

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00:52:28,180 --> 00:52:31,450
sleep, then he would come back out of his
sleep and we would have a little talk and

501
00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:37,520
try and get something through to him and he
would be gone again and it was heart breaking

502
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:44,520
to see the couple struggling and a few more
weeks went passed and I went around there

503
00:52:45,950 --> 00:52:52,369
and knocked on the door, Because I was hearing
all of these incredible stories and when I

504
00:52:52,369 --> 00:52:59,170
opened the door who should meet me was this
guy called Brian and it was the same guy that

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00:52:59,170 --> 00:53:06,170
was like a giant water balloon when I met
him with an attention span of a minute.

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00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:13,480
To a normal looking guy who could walk normally
with normal gait and he said, well he thanked

507
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:21,160
me on the step and that turned my legs to
jelly and he said do you want to talk to xxxxxxxxx

508
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:28,839
Hang on a minute I will go and get her. I
watched the guy walk up the stairs shouted

509
00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:34,890
his misses, turned around and then walked
back down.

510
00:53:34,890 --> 00:53:41,890
And we went in and had an amazing conversation
and then a couple of weeks later, I get another

511
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:48,859
call saying that she is concerned and this
happened very quickly, I know it sounds ridiculous

512
00:53:48,859 --> 00:53:55,859
but it happened very very quickly,. He had
already been taking himself down to see his

513
00:53:57,390 --> 00:54:04,390
granddaughters playing at school in the sports
and he would bring himself back no problem

514
00:54:05,069 --> 00:54:10,109
at all.
And another week or two went passed and she

515
00:54:10,109 --> 00:54:17,109
said I had seen him go out and look at the
car and lift the bonnet and she didn't think

516
00:54:17,790 --> 00:54:24,540
anything of it. I shouldn't really say anything
because I could get them in trouble but he

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00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:28,660
had drove off in the car and come back.
Wow that's amazing, you must be feeling pretty

518
00:54:28,660 --> 00:54:35,660
good about yourself I think?
Well the icing on the cake and I will tell

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00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:44,200
you exactly as it happened.
I get a phone call. Somebody asked me about

520
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:50,380
the bull terrier; what would a male bull terrier
be like around a severely disabled child?

521
00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:54,180
I said, what's the matter with your kid?
She said; why do you want to know?

522
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:58,940
I said, I might be able to help.
She said don't be bloody ridiculous she said

523
00:54:58,940 --> 00:55:05,940
I rang for information about a puppy you know
to see what a bull terrier would be like around

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00:55:06,049 --> 00:55:10,109
a severely disabled child.
I said, well look I can't make you listen

525
00:55:10,109 --> 00:55:15,690
She said spit it out then
And I told her and she said, I have been half

526
00:55:15,690 --> 00:55:19,809
way around the world nothing can be done for
my daughter.

527
00:55:19,809 --> 00:55:25,790
I said look I can't make you listen
Anyway she starts crying because the penny

528
00:55:25,790 --> 00:55:27,900
has dropped having explained everything in
great detail.

529
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:33,950
Her husband then comes on the phone and he
gives me a right rollocking down the phone,

530
00:55:33,950 --> 00:55:38,040
saying you have upset my misses what have
you said to my misses? And she said no listen

531
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,339
to what he has to say so I have to explain
it all over again, but anyway to cut a long

532
00:55:42,339 --> 00:55:48,180
story short, they tilted the girls bed.
Now she is 12 years of age and she hasn't

533
00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:53,240
walked to the age of 12, she wears callipers
day times and night times to keep the legs

534
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:58,210
straight, different set of callipers for on
the night-time. Anybody that has a child with

535
00:55:58,210 --> 00:56:04,349
cerebral palsy will know what I am taking
about. She had severe scoliosis of the spine

536
00:56:04,349 --> 00:56:10,000
and the prognosis in 1995 was if she ever
developed the ability to come or brush her

537
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,849
own hair let us know but don't hold your breath
because it will never happen.

538
00:56:14,849 --> 00:56:19,309
That's what the parents were told and they
had gone half way around the world looking

539
00:56:19,309 --> 00:56:24,480
for help for this girl and I started to get
some reports back.

540
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:30,480
Yes she is doing really well, things are changing
but we are not really sure what is changing

541
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,799
and a few more weeks would go past and then
I would get another report and occasionally

542
00:56:35,799 --> 00:56:41,990
I'd ring up and ask how she's doing?
And she said oh she seems to be stronger,

543
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:48,990
but we could be imagining this you know.
I mean the girl is very clever very articulate

544
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:55,619
and then a few more weeks go past and yeah
she is definitely getting stronger and she

545
00:56:55,619 --> 00:57:00,849
has turned over in bed and she couldn't do
that before and later she was turning over

546
00:57:00,849 --> 00:57:05,160
all of the time.
And she is managing to pull herself up the

547
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:12,160
bed and it was incredible as this was unfolding
it was absolutely incredible and a few more

548
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:20,040
weeks go past; yes she is making so much progress
that the muscles in the legs are looking too

549
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:27,040
masculine. Now this is a girl that hadn't
got muscles because she hadn't walked. Well

550
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:30,890
the muscles were there but they hadn't been
exercised.

551
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:35,150
And they said that the muscles were looking
far too masculine so we have put the bed back

552
00:57:35,150 --> 00:57:38,040
down?
Immediately they had put the bed back down

553
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,470
she started to revert back, so they put the
bed back up.

554
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:48,900
And then it went on for quite a few months
and the icing on the cake came at 8 months

555
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:55,900
when got a frantic call from the mum, she
said we are off to the school, I said whatever

556
00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:03,359
has happened, She said we have just had a
call saying that our girl had got out of the

557
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:09,890
wheelchair at school, walked at school and
managed to to walk up some steps.

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00:58:09,890 --> 00:58:14,940
12 years of age.
Now it get's even better, because some time

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00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:21,940
had passed and there were more improvements,
she clothed herself, and I believe is functioning

560
00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:29,220
like any healthy person now.
I got a call straight out of the blue, and

561
00:58:29,220 --> 00:58:36,220
picked up the phone and I heard this child
say hello is that Andrew? I said yes. She

562
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:40,990
said I am the little girl that you have been
helping with cerebral palsy and I am just

563
00:58:40,990 --> 00:58:44,480
ringing to say thank you for all that you
have done for me.

564
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:51,480
My legs went to jelly and I collapsed on the
floor. I could not stand up.

565
00:58:52,250 --> 00:58:56,380
How amazing.
And so cerebral palsy it just doesn't get

566
00:58:56,380 --> 00:59:00,640
much worse than that does it?
Irreversible brain damage, but I like these

567
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:06,270
irreversible conditions because they appear
to be reversible.

568
00:59:06,270 --> 00:59:12,680
Well I found that out myself 28 years ago,
I had arthritis so badly that I couldn't move

569
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:18,750
or put my shoes and socks on and they said
that it was irreversible and they were completely

570
00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:19,829
wrong.
Yes

571
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:26,599
I was low on vitamins and minerals. I reversed
the whole thing and never had a problem since.

572
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:31,349
And just shortly after that my dad's best
friend got cancer and he was told that he

573
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:36,640
had six weeks to live and he managed to phone
up Linus Pauling, who he had found in the

574
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,720
phone book and said what do I do? and Linus
Pauling said build up slowly but as fast as

575
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,119
you can to 25 grams of vitamin C per day and
he lived another 25 years.

576
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:49,950
Wow
And when he did die it wasn't of cancer. So

577
00:59:49,950 --> 00:59:55,650
I saw first hand with this.
I just heard an interesting story where a

578
00:59:55,650 --> 01:00:02,650
lady that tried the cannabis oil for a brain
tumour and the brain tumour has vanished.

579
01:00:05,380 --> 01:00:12,200
Well it's one of the best successful remedies
out there.

580
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:19,200
You can't verify that yourself because I haven't
been privy to the mri scans or anything but

581
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,400
no reason to doubt what I was told..
This is my dog drinking in the background,

582
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,690
sorry.
One of the things that people don't understand

583
01:00:30,690 --> 01:00:37,690
is that you don't need an mri scan or an X-ray
or anything like that to tell whether your

584
01:00:38,099 --> 01:00:45,099
cancer is getting better or getting worse,
there are several blood tests that can be

585
01:00:46,859 --> 01:00:51,549
done very cheaply, harmlessly, which are probably
a lot more accurate because people don't realise

586
01:00:51,549 --> 01:00:57,440
that some of these scans, particularly a cat
scan, which can be 500 -600 times more powerful

587
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,690
than a chest x-ray for example. People don't
realise the damage that they are doing by

588
01:01:02,690 --> 01:01:04,500
the testing.
Yes

589
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:09,680
When a perfectly good, very inexpensive natural
ways to do it.

590
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,119
Yes
Another thing that people don't realise is

591
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:18,119
that you can have a chemotherapy test so that
what happens is that if somebody gets cancer

592
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:23,319
they just put them on chemotherapy but they
could for a little bit more money test the

593
01:01:23,319 --> 01:01:30,319
cells of their body against all these different
agents, chemotherapy agents, same as with

594
01:01:30,490 --> 01:01:35,799
fillings of teeth a dentist who knows what
he is doing can test the filling material

595
01:01:35,799 --> 01:01:39,480
to see whether it is compatible with you.
So there are loads of people who are having

596
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,790
very bad reactions from chemo for example
That if they had done a simple test, they

597
01:01:43,790 --> 01:01:49,319
could have avoided that. Personally I think
it is absolutely criminal what is going on

598
01:01:49,319 --> 01:01:52,790
in the medical profession.
I agree I agree

599
01:01:52,790 --> 01:01:59,609
And it is not that most doctors are anything
other than lovely people but the method of

600
01:01:59,609 --> 01:02:06,319
teaching them a drugs only way of testing
and a radiation only way and a surgery only

601
01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:08,829
way.
You know you go to the doctor and you have

602
01:02:08,829 --> 01:02:14,559
got these three choices and it is just ridiculous.
I realised some time ago that people go to

603
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:19,549
the doctor believing that a doctor is a health
expert, after all it is called a National

604
01:02:19,549 --> 01:02:23,950
Health Service, but they don't study health,
you know health isn't on the curriculum, they

605
01:02:23,950 --> 01:02:30,740
study disease, they study drugs, but at no
point do doctors look at healthy people to

606
01:02:30,740 --> 01:02:35,380
examine why they are healthy, it is incredible.
It is a sickness industry yeah

607
01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:42,380
Yeah very much so.
So do you think, I am asking a silly question

608
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:48,089
in a way but do you think there is any chance
that doctors in general the NHS in general

609
01:02:48,089 --> 01:02:55,089
would ever accept Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT)
It's practised for respiratory problems, but

610
01:02:55,770 --> 01:03:01,260
again they tend to elevate the upper half
of the bed and not tilt the whole bed. And

611
01:03:01,260 --> 01:03:08,260
again this guy with diabetes was in a hospital
ward having broken his femur and I was invited

612
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:17,470
over there to tilt the bed and to talk to
the doctors and nurses. I talked to the doctors

613
01:03:17,470 --> 01:03:21,950
and nurses but I could not tilt that bed.
It just had not got the capability of being

614
01:03:21,950 --> 01:03:25,359
tilted correctly.
And they said that it was one of the most

615
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:32,010
modern beds that there is.
There are beds out there that will do it and

616
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:37,599
one of the interesting things that they use
the full titling bed for is when someone comes

617
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:43,569
out of surgery under anaesthetic because they
tilt them head down and feet up.

618
01:03:43,569 --> 01:03:50,569
I have actually been in the recovery room
while my son was coming out of anaesthetic

619
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,670
and I asked them why he was head down and
feet up?

620
01:03:55,670 --> 01:04:01,069
They said well it is in case he is sick, so
that the vomit will clear the airways.

621
01:04:01,069 --> 01:04:06,230
I said well have you thought that you might
be making him sick by tilting him upside down?

622
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:11,750
The look of bewilderment on her face.
I said well, I'll tell you what, if you tilt

623
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:17,700
his bed his oxygen sats will go up, his heart
rate will decreases by by 10 -12 beats per

624
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:24,569
minute, his respiration rate will decrease
by 4-5 breaths per minute and within a few

625
01:04:24,569 --> 01:04:31,569
minutes or possibly less he will come out
of his induced anaesthesia. She said well

626
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:39,970
it will take about 20 minutes for him to come
out and as soon as she tilted his bed, the

627
01:04:39,970 --> 01:04:44,809
monitors went exactly as I had predicted they
would go and he put his thumb up and said

628
01:04:44,809 --> 01:04:49,220
I am ok Dad.
He got up and he wasn't sick.

629
01:04:49,220 --> 01:04:54,470
Fantastic
And the nurse came back the ward where my

630
01:04:54,470 --> 01:05:01,470
son was being kept and my wife was at the
ward and she kept saying that it is incredible

631
01:05:03,450 --> 01:05:09,910
what I have just witnessed, she said this
alone could save the NHS a fortune in recovery

632
01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:14,660
times. We have got to do something about it.
But nothing ever happens.

633
01:05:14,660 --> 01:05:19,940
You get lots and lots of promises from lots
of people and nothing ever happens. Except

634
01:05:19,940 --> 01:05:26,940
for that study in Pohnpei, that was incredible.
But it has been a long old struggle and of

635
01:05:31,289 --> 01:05:37,280
course the theory all started from picking
up, I don't know whether you can see, this

636
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,480
GCSE Biology book.
Oh alright

637
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:46,480
I will hold it up so that everyone can see,
it's by D.G.McKean

638
01:05:46,609 --> 01:05:53,609
I wanted to understand what trees were doing
with salts, that was the question that I had

639
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,650
and I have an engineering background, so I
got this from the car boot sale it cost me

640
01:05:57,650 --> 01:06:03,420
twenty pence because I am a cheapskate and
wouldn't buy a new version.

641
01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:07,869
I started to look through it and I just shook
my head and I couldn't believe what I was

642
01:06:07,869 --> 01:06:13,460
reading, for example, Transport in Plants,
Chapter 7 page 71.

643
01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:19,270
"Water evaporates from the leaves and causes
a kind of suction which pulls water up the

644
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:21,619
stem".
Now hang on let's have a think about this

645
01:06:21,619 --> 01:06:27,390
for a second. We have a leaf that is full
of pores, which are holes and you are telling

646
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:33,369
me that those leaves can drag water 300 feet
to the top of a giant Californian Redwood?

647
01:06:33,369 --> 01:06:40,270
I couldn't stop falling about laughing. It
was absolutely ridiculous that that was being

648
01:06:40,270 --> 01:06:43,829
taught in schools and I do remember it from
school.

649
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:50,829
But because of D.G. McKean who pus in his
comments and he will add a little add on saying

650
01:06:54,619 --> 01:06:59,410
that there is insufficient evidence or that
it is poorly understood and time and time

651
01:06:59,410 --> 01:07:04,599
again.
Many biologists regard transpiration as an

652
01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:11,599
inevitable consequence of photosynthesis in
order to photosynthesise, a leaf has to take

653
01:07:11,869 --> 01:07:17,740
in carbon dioxide from the air and the pathway
which allows carbon dioxide in will also let

654
01:07:17,740 --> 01:07:22,480
water vapour out.
Now if you have got a leaf with holes that

655
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:27,650
is causing this magical suction, now surely
it is going to suck air in because that is

656
01:07:27,650 --> 01:07:32,630
going to be the path of least resistance.
So if you are generating a magical suction

657
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:38,369
you are going to be drawing air in, but of
course that doesn't happen.

658
01:07:38,369 --> 01:07:43,609
The other thing I read was "You may have learned
in physics that you cannot drawer water up

659
01:07:43,609 --> 01:07:49,730
by suction to a height of more than about
10 meters. But many trees are taller than

660
01:07:49,730 --> 01:07:56,359
this. So I thought now there is a contradiction
in itself and there was just loads and loads

661
01:07:56,359 --> 01:07:58,490
of errors.
They are still marked, these are the original

662
01:07:58,490 --> 01:08:05,430
marks that were put in the book all those
years ago, when I was falling about the floor

663
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:12,430
laughing, so I said Ok then how does it really
work?

664
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:20,049
It took me 20 minutes to solve it. I though,
I will ignore all the stuff that doesn't make

665
01:08:20,049 --> 01:08:27,049
sense, which is about 99.9% of the book, and
start with what I know as a fact.

666
01:08:27,449 --> 01:08:32,630
I knew that 98% of all the water evaporates
through the leaves so the water that is drawn

667
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:36,949
in through the roots evaporates through the
leaves.

668
01:08:36,949 --> 01:08:43,949
And evaporated water must change the density
of whatever it is evaporated from and that's

669
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:48,900
the sap.
Now the sap contains sugars which are produced

670
01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:55,900
by converting carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
and sugars as we know are denser than water

671
01:08:57,630 --> 01:09:02,719
so when we evaporate water from the leaf we
change the density of the sap.

672
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:09,370
That is so bloody obvious and yet no one has
thought about it?

673
01:09:09,370 --> 01:09:13,080
So hang on if you make the sap denser at the
top of the tree than at the bottom of the

674
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:19,040
tree gravity dictates that the denser sap
will migrate towards a sink and that sink

675
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,850
could be a fruit, could be a branch, could
be the trunk or could be a root. Predominantly

676
01:09:23,850 --> 01:09:27,140
the roots.
So we have triggered a downward flow towards

677
01:09:27,140 --> 01:09:33,980
the roots, now the tree takes up most of these
salts and sugars in it's continual cycle of

678
01:09:33,980 --> 01:09:40,980
growth so there is the sump or the store,
so any concentrated sap that reaches the roots

679
01:09:43,069 --> 01:09:50,069
would be diluted by incoming water from the
soil, which is a dilute solution of nutrients.

680
01:09:52,839 --> 01:09:57,920
That sap then is dragged back up the other
side of the tree, so we have a downward flow

681
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:03,400
generated by evaporation and gravity in the
phloem, which generates molecular drag and

682
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:10,400
that molecular drag is attached to every molecule
in the tree and stretches right back down

683
01:10:10,420 --> 01:10:16,170
the xylem right the way down through the roots
and out into the soil water, so by triggering

684
01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:21,370
that downward flow we are actually pulling
water in from the soil into the tree, it's

685
01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:26,900
almost like if you can imagine the sap behaving
like a piece of string and every now and again

686
01:10:26,900 --> 01:10:33,300
we clip a weight on the one side and that
causes the whole thing to rotate, so the tree

687
01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:40,300
never needed to lift water from the roots
to it's leaves. That was the mistake. They

688
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:46,420
asked the wrong question.
The wrong question was how do trees raise

689
01:10:46,420 --> 01:10:51,130
water from the roots to the leaves.
The question that they should have asked was

690
01:10:51,130 --> 01:10:58,130
"Howe do trees circulate sap?" And then the
answer would have been so blatantly obvious

691
01:10:59,150 --> 01:11:06,150
and yet we are still teaching this in school?
I even set up an experiment at the local secondary

692
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:13,980
school in Paignton and the head of Science
Mr Smith saw the tubular model which I had

693
01:11:13,980 --> 01:11:20,190
strung out of his upper classroom windows,
which was a giant inverted U shape tube with

694
01:11:20,190 --> 01:11:24,530
both open ends submerged in two bottles of
water and the whole loop of tubing was filled

695
01:11:24,530 --> 01:11:30,080
with water and a tiny amount of coloured salt
solution, only 5 ml of salt solution was added

696
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,270
to the centre of the tube, which was then
raised to the upper classroom.

697
01:11:34,270 --> 01:11:40,230
The salts peculated down one side, one bottle
starts to over flow and the other bottle level

698
01:11:40,230 --> 01:11:45,469
goes down and it is not a siphon effect because
if you trigger a siphon it is much quicker.

699
01:11:45,469 --> 01:11:51,480
This is a flow and a return flow driven by
evaporation and gravity.

700
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:55,920
The school kids were there and they all listened
and they all saw the experiment and they were

701
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,650
all very excited.
And he pit's his hand up and says he has no

702
01:11:59,650 --> 01:12:05,230
problem with this, this is exactly how trees
raise water to the leaves but what can I do

703
01:12:05,230 --> 01:12:09,679
about it? I have to keep teaching the National
Curriculum.

704
01:12:09,679 --> 01:12:15,620
It's crazy, this is the National Fools system
not the National Schools system.

705
01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:20,940
Yes
I even took it to Exeter University, I took

706
01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:26,370
it to, well it's been there a couple of times,
to Professor Edzard Ernst

707
01:12:26,370 --> 01:12:28,390
Have you heard of Ernst?
No

708
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:35,390
He is the guy in charge of alternative therapies,
I suspect he is there to make sure that these

709
01:12:36,620 --> 01:12:43,620
alternative therapies never get off the ground
and I was invited in there to give a talk

710
01:12:43,850 --> 01:12:50,850
about the discovery and there was a team there
of Doctors and Ernst and they saw the experiments

711
01:12:52,590 --> 01:12:58,550
and heard the explanation, thoroughly agreed
with it, sent me a letter saying they were

712
01:12:58,550 --> 01:13:05,429
very excited by it and we need to get a study
done and what best would the study be conducted

713
01:13:05,429 --> 01:13:08,060
in?
I said well varicose veins and leg ulcers

714
01:13:08,060 --> 01:13:15,060
because they have shown remarkable recoveries
and he said well we need to see this doctor

715
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,489
and I won't mention the doctors name although
I should mention the doctors name.

716
01:13:19,489 --> 01:13:26,489
I had an invitation to go and see this doctor
and as soon as I walked in the door he said

717
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:31,590
are you My Fletcher? I said yes, He said;
"Before you say a word, I don't want anything

718
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:38,590
to do with you, your theory, your explanations
or any possible study do I make myself clear?"

719
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:45,170
I said Oh Yeah perfectly and then I came away.
So he had quickly realised that him being

720
01:13:45,170 --> 01:13:52,170
a vascular guy depended on repeat vascular
surgeries to make his lucrative living and

721
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,000
the last thing he wants to hear is that a
couple of blocks of wood under someone's bed

722
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:02,000
could prevent someone from having vascular
surgery.

723
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:07,650
It's close to murder taking that view point
for a doctor isn't it, knowing that there

724
01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:13,020
is a cure and not taking it up that is murder
isn't it?

725
01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:16,230
It's disgraceful, I wouldn't say that it was
murder.

726
01:14:16,230 --> 01:14:20,590
But it is definitely disgraceful.
Well it is if their patients die.

727
01:14:20,590 --> 01:14:24,590
He is lucky I am now mature because when I
was a youngster I would have levelled the

728
01:14:24,590 --> 01:14:29,159
guy but there you go.
You grow up as you get older don't you.

729
01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:35,420
Well yes supposedly that's what they say.
Talk to me a bit more about the leg ulcer

730
01:14:35,420 --> 01:14:39,620
thing, again do you have a good explanation
as to why that is happening?

731
01:14:39,620 --> 01:14:46,150
Yeah again it is tissue breakdown because
of circulation, it is always circulation,

732
01:14:46,150 --> 01:14:52,000
circulation is so important because without
circulation we are dust and bones. So anything

733
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:59,000
that compromises the circulation be it a varicose
ulcer or a pressure ulcer, what you have done

734
01:14:59,340 --> 01:15:06,340
you have actually impinged the circulation
by an external pressure be that a vein or

735
01:15:07,610 --> 01:15:12,710
coming in contact with a bed or a chair for
a prolonged period of time but if you can

736
01:15:12,710 --> 01:15:18,170
restore that circulation and the sloping bed
excels in that because when you lay on the

737
01:15:18,170 --> 01:15:24,050
sloping bed, you will know this, your weight
is distributed differently, you are no longer

738
01:15:24,050 --> 01:15:31,050
feel like a sack of spuds lying on the ground.
The bed feels somehow softer and the you have

739
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:36,840
applied traction to the spine but you have
also applied some sheer forces to the tissue,

740
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:43,360
which people have voiced concerns about, but
you have also increased the circulation and

741
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:49,690
if you can increase the circulation you can
speed up the healing and my Father had varicose

742
01:15:49,690 --> 01:15:56,690
ulcers for 25 years and he was a window cleaner,
a hard many, you will never meet a harder

743
01:15:57,239 --> 01:16:02,610
man. When he died of cancer he never took
so much as a paracetamol.

744
01:16:02,610 --> 01:16:09,610
He had 3 leg ulcers and they healed up while
he was on the sloping bed. Just healed up,

745
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:19,420
skinned over. They had never done that in
25 years, despite that he had all of the bandages,

746
01:16:19,420 --> 01:16:26,420
the seaweed, bandages on his legs and regular
dressings, he had dressed his legs all of

747
01:16:28,850 --> 01:16:35,850
these years.
That is amazing, 25 years of leg ulcers, incredible.

748
01:16:38,050 --> 01:16:43,080
So if it is improving circulation presumably
you are getting results with erectile dysfunction?

749
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:50,080
Yes, we have had reports of erectile dysfunction,
even in type two diabetes.

750
01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:57,850
Well, that's very interesting
Yes, and early morning wood I think it's called,

751
01:17:00,030 --> 01:17:07,030
get a lot of reports on that.
I have interviewed a chap called Tony Pantalleresco

752
01:17:09,449 --> 01:17:16,449
once or twice and he has testosterone boosting
formula and I thought well I will give that

753
01:17:18,270 --> 01:17:22,110
a try and see if I notice any differences.
And I went to the International anti-ageing

754
01:17:22,110 --> 01:17:29,110
conference, two weeks ago and they had all
the latest measuring equipment and so on and

755
01:17:29,469 --> 01:17:34,360
I went on several of the devices to get my
levels measured and this guy says I can't

756
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:40,460
believe it you have got the testosterone of
a thirty year old, I was really chuffed you

757
01:17:40,460 --> 01:17:43,310
know.
But if anyone is interested in boosting their

758
01:17:43,310 --> 01:17:49,770
testosterone levels apart from inclined the
bed check out Tony Pantalleresco and erectile

759
01:17:49,770 --> 01:17:53,949
dysfunction on Youtube.
Have you come across Tony?

760
01:17:53,949 --> 01:18:00,360
Yes I have seen some of his videos, yeah
He is fantastic, my fridge is full of his

761
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:06,190
concoctions.
Yeah he is quite an amazing guy yeah.

762
01:18:06,190 --> 01:18:13,190
Absolutely
So we have run through quite a number of complaints,

763
01:18:14,730 --> 01:18:18,900
what other things have you noticed?
One of the first things we noticed and again

764
01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:25,900
this is how it happens, it is just nothing
is planed we have gone down this ally, shine

765
01:18:26,030 --> 01:18:33,030
the light down and follow the light beam.
I met a lady and she was a palmist

766
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:41,409
and she pointed out about the half moons on
your fingers, how important they were for

767
01:18:41,409 --> 01:18:45,110
circulation, she said always look at the half
moons when we are reading someone's hands

768
01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:49,960
and we can tell a great deal I forget the
formula but she said if they are too big there

769
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:54,760
is a problem with the heart, if they are too
small there is a problem with the circulation

770
01:18:54,760 --> 01:19:01,760
and she said that she can tell a great deal.
The strange thing is since I have had my bed

771
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:06,290
tilted my half moons have come back.
That's really interesting. It's rare that

772
01:19:06,290 --> 01:19:10,060
you see any that apart from having half moons
on their thumbs that they have half moons

773
01:19:10,060 --> 01:19:13,860
at all.
I have a full set of half moons

774
01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:20,670
Very good.
The other guy John the guy's name with spinal

775
01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:27,670
cord injury apparently Afro-Caribbean's seldome
have half moons and he, well actually he was

776
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:34,830
African-American he got half moons on his
fingers as well which was quite incredible.

777
01:19:34,890 --> 01:19:41,890
And hair as well, that was another thing.
I started to notice again it was rather embarrassing

778
01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:49,230
moment a nurse friend of mine she said I have
got a complaint about this bed. I said tell

779
01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:55,920
me more, I am having to sheer my pubic hairs,
she said because they won't stop growing they

780
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:02,920
are no longer short and curly's and I thought
that was fascinating because if you can maintain

781
01:20:03,010 --> 01:20:08,449
the circulation to the hair then there is
no reason why it should drop out.

782
01:20:08,449 --> 01:20:13,650
So I started to monitor my own hair on my
head and I noticed that the colour had changed

783
01:20:13,650 --> 01:20:19,820
and it had started to go darker although you
can't see a great deal here but I noticed

784
01:20:19,820 --> 01:20:25,719
that I stopped getting hair on my pillows,
now this was also backed up by Roger Kirk

785
01:20:25,719 --> 01:20:32,719
who I mentioned earlier with multiple sclerosis,
because Roger said quite off the cuff, "How

786
01:20:33,690 --> 01:20:40,690
come my hair brush has got no hair in it any
more? I used to spend ages picking all of

787
01:20:41,150 --> 01:20:45,889
the hair out of the brush and I don't find
hair in the shower any more?"

788
01:20:45,889 --> 01:20:52,889
So I did an experiment and I have my hair
cut as you can see it's one style every time

789
01:20:54,050 --> 01:20:59,690
and my wife she cuts my hair so we were having
it cut at two monthly intervals and I was

790
01:20:59,690 --> 01:21:05,690
saving all the hair in these little tins and
I saved them up for a whole year.

791
01:21:05,690 --> 01:21:10,659
I looked across the hair follicles and there
was a definite change in the hair texture

792
01:21:10,659 --> 01:21:15,260
and a definite change in the hair colour,
it was getting darker.

793
01:21:15,260 --> 01:21:22,260
And also there was more hair, so my hair was
growing more more which is we are led to believe

794
01:21:26,710 --> 01:21:32,989
any way that it is not going to happen.
Anyway it was fascinating and I really don't

795
01:21:32,989 --> 01:21:38,860
think and I have still got more hair than
my younger brother.

796
01:21:38,860 --> 01:21:45,860
Well brilliant, do you know a very funny thing
about 20 years ago I met this guy who insisted

797
01:21:47,150 --> 01:21:52,300
that I touched his head and he had like this
baby hair all over his head. He said that

798
01:21:52,300 --> 01:21:58,670
he had been bald for several years but he
had a back injury and he decided to help his

799
01:21:58,670 --> 01:22:02,690
back injury that he would get an inversion
table, where you strap your seat in and hang

800
01:22:02,690 --> 01:22:09,690
upside down for five minutes a day and after
a few months he noticed his hair re-growing

801
01:22:11,969 --> 01:22:16,159
it seemed that the blood flowing upside down
had stimulated his follicle growth.

802
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:21,860
Well you are still using gravity if you are
upside down but the problem with being upside

803
01:22:21,860 --> 01:22:28,860
down and again my wife and I tested it.
Ok I will give you the full story. I wanted

804
01:22:34,230 --> 01:22:41,230
to understand if there are any changes to
the density of urine because we had tilted

805
01:22:41,290 --> 01:22:48,290
the bed, so we measured our urine density
using a hydrometer and we measured the urine

806
01:22:50,420 --> 01:22:55,219
density while we were on an angled bed head
up feet down

807
01:22:55,219 --> 01:22:59,940
And then we measured the urine density on
a flat bed

808
01:22:59,940 --> 01:23:05,219
and normal daily activity urine density
and head down density, so that we were lying

809
01:23:05,219 --> 01:23:12,219
head down with our feet up.
What we found was is that the flat bed actually

810
01:23:12,659 --> 01:23:19,659
lowered the urine density over and above normal
daily activity and it was quite remarkable

811
01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:28,540
how the salts were not being excreted in the
urine.

812
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:35,870
And the we measured the inclined bed and we
found that the urine density went up markedly

813
01:23:35,909 --> 01:23:41,960
so the urine was much stronger and much more
dense than either horizontal or normal daily

814
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,389
routines.
And the icing on the cake again came when

815
01:23:46,389 --> 01:23:52,679
we slept head down and feet up. What we found
was that the urine density went down to near

816
01:23:52,679 --> 01:23:58,280
water readings, in other words no toxins were
leaving the body while we were head down and

817
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:02,310
feet up.
The side spin on that was that we both got

818
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:09,310
diarrhoea, We did it for a few days and the
diarrhoea was quite persistent.

819
01:24:12,580 --> 01:24:19,580
Yes it would be a great slimming aid to sleep
head down and feet up. But NASA have spent

820
01:24:20,630 --> 01:24:27,199
thousands and thousands of dollars paying
people to, in fact I think you can get 7,000

821
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:31,969
dollars just for sleeping head down and feet
up with out getting out of bed for a few months.

822
01:24:31,969 --> 01:24:38,969
What they found is, is that they can accelerate
the ageing process by ten times faster than

823
01:24:39,020 --> 01:24:45,000
here on Earth and that mirrors exactly what
happens to astronauts in space, because you

824
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:50,500
have taken gravity out of the equation in
space. You have not actually but you have

825
01:24:50,500 --> 01:24:56,810
negated it's effects by spinning around the
Earth fast enough to counter act the pull

826
01:24:56,810 --> 01:24:59,940
of the Earth.
But you have not actually got away from gravity.

827
01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:06,940
But Astronauts, again back to the ebola virus
again their immune system in space gets knocked

828
01:25:08,650 --> 01:25:15,650
about. The bone mineral loss is prolific,
10 x faster that here on Earth, neurological

829
01:25:15,739 --> 01:25:22,739
damage has been experienced, multiple organ
failures from bed rest and from being in space.

830
01:25:26,730 --> 01:25:33,730
You know it just doesn't matter which way
you hit this from it just matches up.

831
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:41,530
Well amazing, and what other health issues
has it overcome?

832
01:25:41,530 --> 01:25:48,530
Let me give you one. How about lung function,
emphysema or anything like that,

833
01:25:56,670 --> 01:26:03,670
Yes this is a really interesting one. There
was a dog with it's lungs filling up with

834
01:26:04,770 --> 01:26:10,710
fluid, it was a rotweiler and it was having
it's lungs drained two times a week at the

835
01:26:10,710 --> 01:26:16,929
vets and the vet said I can't do this any
more and he had literally taken the dog home

836
01:26:16,929 --> 01:26:21,300
to die.
And a person that had been listening to my

837
01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:27,340
theory and my explanations and who had been
sleeping on a sloping bed, told him;, he said

838
01:26:27,340 --> 01:26:33,210
look just shove the dog in a room and put
the dehumidifier on. Because I had explained

839
01:26:33,210 --> 01:26:39,190
how my friends fish tank was being emptied
of water and his dehumidifier was filling

840
01:26:39,190 --> 01:26:43,239
up of water because he had dried the air out
so the water molecules were leaving the fish

841
01:26:43,239 --> 01:26:50,239
tank into the air and then into the dehumidifier
and he was forever topping up the fish tank

842
01:26:51,250 --> 01:26:56,840
so he put the dog in the room and left the
dehumidifier running and it cleared up the

843
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:02,320
fluid on the lungs. That was without the sloping
bed. But of course respiratory problems is

844
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:09,320
one of the things along with hiatus hernia
and gerd is is that the medical profession

845
01:27:10,219 --> 01:27:15,440
will actually recommend raising the head end
of the bed on blocks, So they know it does

846
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:20,340
work.
But the worse thing is and I have seen this

847
01:27:20,340 --> 01:27:27,340
with my own eyes is that the nurses and the
doctors know full well how harmful the flat

848
01:27:30,449 --> 01:27:37,449
bed is and I'll just see if I can find you
the..... This is De conditioning, The Consequences

849
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:46,239
Of Bed-Rest By: Colleen S. Campbell MSN, ARNP
BC, CRRNA Geriatric Evaluation & Management

850
01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:49,370
(GEM)
Director Geriatric Research Education Clinical

851
01:27:49,370 --> 01:27:50,400
Center
(GRECC)

852
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,830
Objectives of this document is to
Discuss de conditioning as a clinical entity

853
01:27:54,830 --> 01:28:01,830
resulting in a reduced functional capacity
of multiple body systems

854
01:28:03,340 --> 01:28:08,840
Discuss the psychophysiology of prolonged
bed rest

855
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:14,360
List key interventions that prevent and treat
the consequences of bed rest.

856
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:19,650
Inactivity and prolonged bed rest are unnatural
states of the human body.

857
01:28:19,650 --> 01:28:26,650
And now this is a very very moving piece by
Doctor Richard Asher written in 1942.

858
01:28:28,659 --> 01:28:31,420
Look at the patient lying alone in bed

859
01:28:31,420 --> 01:28:34,730
What a pathetic picture he makes.
The blood clotting in his veins.

860
01:28:34,730 --> 01:28:40,920
The lime draining from his bones.
The scybola stacking up in his colon.

861
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:45,820
The flesh rotting from his seat.
The urine leaking from his distended bladder

862
01:28:45,820 --> 01:28:50,290
and the spirit evaporating from his soul.
Teach us to live that

863
01:28:50,290 --> 01:28:56,840
we may dread unnecessary time in bed.
Get people up and we may save

864
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,790
patients from an early grave.

865
01:28:59,790 --> 01:29:06,790
So they know but back to what I was going
to talk about was when someone is terminally

866
01:29:07,850 --> 01:29:14,850
ill there is a practice that is unwritten,
and it's the removal of pillows from terminally

867
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:23,060
ill patients and this actually speeds up their
deaths and this is practised in many hospitals

868
01:29:23,060 --> 01:29:28,449
around the U.K. and many other countries.
In fact it is mentioned in the Jewish Code

869
01:29:28,449 --> 01:29:32,889
Of Ethics.
"It is forbidden to remove the pillows from

870
01:29:32,889 --> 01:29:36,690
a patient who is terminally ill to speed up
their demise.

871
01:29:36,690 --> 01:29:43,690
So they know that the bed is not the right
way to go and yet hospitals count their success

872
01:29:43,719 --> 01:29:50,719
by the number of beds
Wow, so with the hiatus hernia they already

873
01:29:56,730 --> 01:30:00,020
know that the raised beds work
Yes

874
01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:04,929
Do you think that you can cure the hiatus
hernia with the inclined bed alone or do you

875
01:30:04,929 --> 01:30:11,929
need to do a lot more?
I have not had any feedback from anyone that

876
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:20,239
has said that it has but I haven't been looking
at hiatus hernia because I have been trying

877
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:27,239
to concentrate on conditions that are thought
to be irreversible. Probably I shouldn't have

878
01:30:27,250 --> 01:30:30,989
done that, probably I should have gone down
the route of re-examining what has happened

879
01:30:30,989 --> 01:30:37,010
with hiatus hernia.
But certainly if you get a problem with acid,

880
01:30:37,010 --> 01:30:44,010
and you tilt the bed you notice a great deal
of improvements in the damage that the acid

881
01:30:45,719 --> 01:30:52,719
causes.
And again we know that premature babies in

882
01:30:53,090 --> 01:31:00,090
hospitals are on inclined platforms where
they sleep and yet the parents take them home

883
01:31:00,489 --> 01:31:04,320
and put them on flat beds and that baby has
never been flat.

884
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:11,320
So I don't have any data to say that I have
cured hiatus hernia, but I have not had anyone

885
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,489
come back to me and say that It hasn't been
cured either.

886
01:31:17,489 --> 01:31:22,980
Right right, it's amazing what they do to
hasten deaths and the most frightening one

887
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:27,710
is the Liverpool Pathway.
What is the Liverpool Pathway?

888
01:31:27,710 --> 01:31:34,500
The Liverpool Pathway is where they starve
the patients to death. They stop giving them

889
01:31:34,500 --> 01:31:38,190
food and water
Right, yes yes.

890
01:31:38,190 --> 01:31:44,719
And so if anybody has an elderly relative
in the hospital and they hear them say that

891
01:31:44,719 --> 01:31:49,159
they are going to put them on the Liverpool
pathway, they are saying that we are going

892
01:31:49,159 --> 01:31:56,159
to kill your mother and father or whatever
it is very slowly now. and it is totally criminal.

893
01:31:57,250 --> 01:32:02,550
I really don't know how they can sleep at
night. I really don't

894
01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:07,889
No I don't either.
So serious issues, what other serious ones

895
01:32:07,889 --> 01:32:14,889
have you seen reversed?
Skin conditions, quite a few people with psoriasis.

896
01:32:17,870 --> 01:32:23,630
A friend of mine, again we mentioned the one
lady with psoriatic arthritis. but there is

897
01:32:23,630 --> 01:32:30,630
another lady with psoriasis and well she took
a series of, well she came down to my home

898
01:32:31,170 --> 01:32:36,630
and we took a series of photographs and then
we took another series of photographs in a

899
01:32:36,630 --> 01:32:43,630
few weeks time and another set of photographs
and the evidence spoke for itself, the skin

900
01:32:44,350 --> 01:32:51,350
was clearing up.
I am trying to think of other conditions.

901
01:32:52,850 --> 01:32:59,850
Spine problems aside from spinal cord injury,
back ache and people with slipped disks, it

902
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:08,980
has definitely helped there and again the
traction applied by the bed eases the joints

903
01:33:08,980 --> 01:33:15,980
apart and on a previous radio interview, the
listeners were invited to try the bed just

904
01:33:19,750 --> 01:33:24,280
put some six inch blocks under your bed and
see what happens and then he invited me back

905
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:31,280
in 3 months and I went back and we had reports
back that people with ms were saying yep it

906
01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:38,300
is helping and varicose veins there were reports
that veins had decreased and snoring. We mentioned

907
01:33:40,719 --> 01:33:47,719
bed wetting earlier with youngsters wetting
the bed and for nurses if you can solve the

908
01:33:50,860 --> 01:33:57,600
problem with people wetting the bed in hospital
it would take a tremendous amount of pressure

909
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:04,600
off the hospital staff.
Sight problems people with sight problems

910
01:34:06,860 --> 01:34:12,800
were reporting that they couldn't actually
see clearly out of their glasses and were

911
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:19,010
going back to their old prescription glasses,
so there were improvements and again that

912
01:34:19,010 --> 01:34:26,010
happened with the first pilot study with ms.
Other people and including one of the guys

913
01:34:26,630 --> 01:34:33,630
with a spinal cord injury that were reporting
there were improvements with the eyesight.

914
01:34:36,860 --> 01:34:43,860
Have we lost you Clive?
Sorry I couldn't get the sound on.

915
01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:48,710
How about hearing?
Any body getting increases in hearing?

916
01:34:48,710 --> 01:34:55,710
Well my..... there is only one case that I
know of it is interesting because it was only

917
01:34:57,570 --> 01:35:01,230
brief.
And then it stopped.

918
01:35:01,230 --> 01:35:08,230
He is not really my Stepfather, but my Mother's
husband, he had meningitis as a child which

919
01:35:12,699 --> 01:35:19,699
left him deaf and we tilted the bed and he
began complaining about the loud noises outside

920
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:25,840
of the house.
Saying that the police cars were frightening

921
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:31,630
him and ambulances when they went passed.
Now there has not been an upsurge in those

922
01:35:31,630 --> 01:35:35,119
vehicles going passed all of a sudden. They
have been going passed but he hadn't made

923
01:35:35,119 --> 01:35:38,070
the connection that it was helping with his
ears.

924
01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:45,070
But alas the bed went down again so you can
lead a horse to water but you can't make it

925
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:51,040
drink.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't

926
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,949
make them think.
Yes, well that is You can lead a Human to

927
01:35:54,949 --> 01:36:01,659
Knowledge but you can't make them think.
Yeah quite, exactly because knowledge is all

928
01:36:01,659 --> 01:36:08,050
very good but without wisdom to use that knowledge
wisely it is pretty useless.

929
01:36:08,050 --> 01:36:15,050
Hmm But what do we do with this now Clive?
We have got this thing here that could actually

930
01:36:17,119 --> 01:36:22,010
save out NHS a great deal of money and can
save the patients a great deal of suffering.

931
01:36:22,010 --> 01:36:28,219
It would put a stop to amputations.
Oh Gangrene as well, I have had some success

932
01:36:28,219 --> 01:36:35,219
with gangrene, I met a guy down in Paignton
and he had this huge bandage on his foot.

933
01:36:35,820 --> 01:36:42,100
I asked him what the problem was and he said
that he had got gangrene and he went away

934
01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:48,969
and tilted his bed and he got back to me and
said that his surgeon was amazed that the

935
01:36:48,969 --> 01:36:54,139
flesh that his surgeon had been removing from
his foot was actually growing back.

936
01:36:54,139 --> 01:37:01,139
Old scar tissue as well, which is very interesting.
I have had a few reports of old scars that

937
01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:07,580
have been there since childhood with some
people. A lady down the road had a gristly

938
01:37:07,580 --> 01:37:12,440
scar on her chin and it just up and went.
It vanished.

939
01:37:12,440 --> 01:37:19,139
DVT Deep vein thrombosis vanished without
a trace just by increasing the circulation.

940
01:37:19,139 --> 01:37:26,139
You know where do we stop?
Well it is truly amazing and hopefully listeners

941
01:37:27,060 --> 01:37:31,330
hearing this will try and spread this to every
body that they know.

942
01:37:31,330 --> 01:37:38,330
You know there are people that are losing
their lives, losing their health, losing their

943
01:37:39,710 --> 01:37:44,929
income, because of all of these difficulties.
And people forget that we are not meant to

944
01:37:44,929 --> 01:37:51,580
be ill. It isn't normal in the slightest way.
You look at a flock of birds or a school of

945
01:37:51,580 --> 01:37:57,150
fish or a herd of animals in the wild and
simply you can't tell which one is about to

946
01:37:57,150 --> 01:38:01,159
give birth tomorrow, you can't tell the oldest
from the youngest because they are all moving

947
01:38:01,159 --> 01:38:08,159
at the same speed, all together at the same
time and yet humans get diseases just like

948
01:38:08,449 --> 01:38:15,449
any of those animals or birds or fish would
do if you keep them in an unnatural environment.

949
01:38:16,469 --> 01:38:23,469
Yes
We did touch upon fertility and erectile dysfunction

950
01:38:23,719 --> 01:38:30,719
and just an interesting report from a member
of the family who was trying to conceive and

951
01:38:32,639 --> 01:38:39,639
had tried in vitro-fertilisation and she had
spent quite a bit of money trying to conceive

952
01:38:40,810 --> 01:38:47,810
and actually gave up and we tilted the bed.
Or she tilted the bed.

953
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:54,960
And she conceived without the I.V.F. Now I
did mention this before now do the sperm need

954
01:38:57,239 --> 01:39:04,239
to know which way is up and which way is down?
You know is simply being on an angle sufficient

955
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:10,199
to guide the semen to the egg?
It is something that no one has considered.

956
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:13,100
No that's very interesting.
Yeah

957
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:20,100
And is that, have you heard that story quite
often with conception?

958
01:39:22,409 --> 01:39:29,409
No I don't get a great deal of, I do get feed
back but are people willing to talk about

959
01:39:32,210 --> 01:39:39,210
you know their sexual activity to someone
who is not a Doctor. I don't profess to be

960
01:39:43,150 --> 01:39:48,639
a doctor, I have an engineering background.
I am hardly the person that you would wanna

961
01:39:48,639 --> 01:39:55,639
confide in about something so personal?
Certainly with conception matters the people

962
01:39:58,719 --> 01:40:03,010
who, you know the couples who really want
to conceive generally they will go to the

963
01:40:03,010 --> 01:40:07,520
ends of the Earth to do it won't they?
Hopefully they will go to the end of the bed

964
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:12,909
and jack it up.
If you jack it up my word of advice is to

965
01:40:12,909 --> 01:40:19,909
use thick medical books, you know the more
complicated the better, And you might find

966
01:40:21,130 --> 01:40:26,130
that some of that will rub off. Yeah.
Amazing

967
01:40:26,130 --> 01:40:33,130
Yeah and of course you can buy some furniture
risers, you get a pack of 4 from I have seen

968
01:40:36,719 --> 01:40:43,010
them on Ebay for £10 including the postage,
So pop two under your bed and pop two in your

969
01:40:43,010 --> 01:40:48,159
suitcase for when you are away from home.
So when you are propping the bed do you normally

970
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:53,889
have to prop up the middle of the bed as well?
Yes it depends what kind of bed they have,

971
01:40:53,889 --> 01:40:58,960
if there is a leg there, obviously you will
need to prop the centre leg up.

972
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:05,960
There are a couple of videos about inclined
bed therapy, Deanna Castro talking about her

973
01:41:14,679 --> 01:41:21,679
success, she had ruptured disks, in her neck
and in her back and she was off work. I do

974
01:41:22,429 --> 01:41:26,369
believe that she is back at work.
Against all of the odds.

975
01:41:26,369 --> 01:41:33,369
There is an elderly lady that has been racked
with pain after being hit by a motorcycle

976
01:41:35,929 --> 01:41:42,020
since the age of 13 and she has been in excruciating
pain and when you saw this lady walking you

977
01:41:42,020 --> 01:41:49,020
would imagine that she was drunk, she was
in so much pain but the pain has gone, she

978
01:41:49,949 --> 01:41:56,949
dances she runs, it's incredible.
That's amazing, Gillian in the chat room is

979
01:41:58,460 --> 01:42:05,460
asking are there any different angles of the
tilt that one should apply to any different

980
01:42:05,659 --> 01:42:12,170
problems or is this always the same?
I did specify that people with a spinal cord

981
01:42:12,170 --> 01:42:19,170
injury would need to raise their bed higher
and the logic here is that there is a guy

982
01:42:20,869 --> 01:42:27,350
called Ronald Meyer and he did some experiments
by severing the optic nerve of a fish a frog

983
01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:33,280
a mouse a rat and a rabbit.
And what he did was he showed that the fish

984
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:40,280
and the frog even though he had severed the
optic nerve the same, within a few months

985
01:42:41,619 --> 01:42:46,940
the optic nerve had grown back and both could
see perfectly normally.

986
01:42:46,940 --> 01:42:52,510
But if you think about the posture of the
frog and the fish, if they are lying on their

987
01:42:52,510 --> 01:42:57,260
sides they are generally dead. So they are
always upright, so by severing the optic nerve

988
01:42:57,260 --> 01:43:03,780
the angle from the brain to the eye was intact.
They never interrupted the circulation so

989
01:43:03,780 --> 01:43:07,770
the circulation continued and the repairs
took place.

990
01:43:07,770 --> 01:43:14,770
Now I like to think that these nerves in spinal
cord injury require exactly the same signals

991
01:43:15,010 --> 01:43:19,600
as saplings and seedlings from plants. In
other words, they need to know which way up

992
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,659
and which way down is for them to grow in
the right direction and meet their targets.

993
01:43:23,659 --> 01:43:29,150
I think this is where that main problem is
with a spinal cord injury is immediately they

994
01:43:29,150 --> 01:43:32,150
are placed on a flat bed and then they rotate
them.

995
01:43:32,150 --> 01:43:39,150
Now back to Meyer, Meyer his rat his mouse
is rabbit, no nerve regeneration took place

996
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:47,000
because they like ourselves were able to change
posture at will so there was never the constant

997
01:43:47,719 --> 01:43:54,489
direction of gravity to restore the circulation
and repair the damaged nerves. Now with the

998
01:43:54,489 --> 01:44:01,489
bed on a slightly higher angle it represented
the angle of the optic nerve regeneration

999
01:44:02,060 --> 01:44:09,060
in the fish and the frog. And that was the
logic that I came up with to apply the higher

1000
01:44:09,449 --> 01:44:16,449
angle for a person with a spinal cord injury.
And also it would apply to a person with multiple

1001
01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:24,300
sclerosis as well. But the old six inch incline
on a standard U.K. bed is a good rule of thumb.

1002
01:44:26,710 --> 01:44:33,710
But you know, hey experiment you might find
out that raising the bed a little bit higher

1003
01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:38,429
is more beneficial to yourself.
There is no hard and fast rule with this.

1004
01:44:38,429 --> 01:44:45,429
The reason that I came up with the five degree
angle which incidentally was the same angle

1005
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:50,810
that the Ancient Egyptians had come up with
five thousand years ago, I used a loop of

1006
01:44:50,810 --> 01:44:56,780
tubing which I connected so that it was a
closed loop of tubing filled with water with

1007
01:44:56,780 --> 01:45:01,199
a little coloured salt solution at the one
end and that was stretched along the length

1008
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:05,739
of the bed.
Now if I raised the bed up just a few inches,

1009
01:45:05,739 --> 01:45:12,090
i.e. four inches the salts migrated down the
bed but the return flow was in the same side

1010
01:45:12,090 --> 01:45:18,400
of the loop of tubing, i.e the fluid in that
side of the tubing was flowing in two directions

1011
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:24,679
so the down flow was on bottom of the tube
and the return flow was above it in the same

1012
01:45:24,679 --> 01:45:27,900
side.
When you raised the bed to five inches then

1013
01:45:27,900 --> 01:45:34,480
the whole loop circulated, so we added an
extra inch just to be on the safe side as

1014
01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:41,480
a margin of error and it seems to have been
a good choice.

1015
01:45:43,130 --> 01:45:50,130
One of the other things is injuries. Broken
bones. My son broke his wrist and there have

1016
01:45:53,230 --> 01:45:58,230
been other reports as well.
This guy 82 years of age who broke his hip

1017
01:45:58,230 --> 01:46:02,650
and the doom and gloom had set in. You know,
the Doctors and the nurses because he has

1018
01:46:02,650 --> 01:46:08,260
got diabetes and he is 82 years old, you know,
it's er..... Anyway he was out of hospital

1019
01:46:08,260 --> 01:46:13,409
in a few weeks, he said I am not staying in
here, his legs were swollen and he got back

1020
01:46:13,409 --> 01:46:19,670
on his sloping bed and his legs went down
to normal size and he amazed the physiotherapists

1021
01:46:19,670 --> 01:46:25,090
and the healing at 82 years of age was something
they had never seen before.

1022
01:46:25,090 --> 01:46:32,090
But back to my son. He broke his wrist and
he wore a plaster cast for six weeks and he

1023
01:46:32,179 --> 01:46:37,360
went to Torbay Hospital and had the plaster
cast taken off and the muscle wastage was

1024
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:42,170
obvious in one arm. One arm was very thin
and the other arm was normal size and now

1025
01:46:42,170 --> 01:46:48,909
a year later. Oh and he had to have physiotherapy.
He had to have physiotherapy to get his had

1026
01:46:48,909 --> 01:46:55,909
working and he had a lot of pain. and I think
it was a couple of years later that he broke

1027
01:46:55,929 --> 01:47:00,420
the same wrist but this time he does a better
job straight through both bones, he has metal

1028
01:47:00,420 --> 01:47:06,130
plates put in his writs and this was the time
that he was actually in the recovery room

1029
01:47:06,130 --> 01:47:12,949
upside down.
And he has the metal plates in and the plaster

1030
01:47:12,949 --> 01:47:18,770
cast is on for 8 weeks, but it's sort of an
open plaster cast and that's on for eight

1031
01:47:18,770 --> 01:47:24,469
weeks and he goes back to the hospital, the
same hospital and has the plaster cast removed

1032
01:47:24,469 --> 01:47:28,710
and there is no muscle wastage and he doesn't
need physiotherapy.

1033
01:47:28,710 --> 01:47:35,179
Now the surgeon there has to take the two
metal plates out and he can't find the one

1034
01:47:35,179 --> 01:47:40,909
metal plate it has been completely overgrown
by bone and I will quote the guy; "He said

1035
01:47:40,909 --> 01:47:45,159
in the whole of his career he has never seen
bone growth like it in his life."

1036
01:47:45,159 --> 01:47:51,850
Well that's amazing. I would like to ask you
about a friend of mine, someone who 35 years

1037
01:47:51,850 --> 01:47:56,949
ago or something fell out of a tree and broke
his back.

1038
01:47:56,949 --> 01:48:02,199
Yes
He has got a gap in his spine a centimetre

1039
01:48:02,199 --> 01:48:07,320
or two I am not quite sure what. Is there
any chance Inclined Bed Therapy could help?

1040
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:14,320
Yes there is, I have helped some members of
the SAS with spinal cord injury and in fact

1041
01:48:15,790 --> 01:48:22,790
my wife and I were at ring side seats at the
boxing tournament at Hereford and we were

1042
01:48:24,610 --> 01:48:29,489
treated like Royalty and I have been helping
these guys and because their injuries were

1043
01:48:29,489 --> 01:48:36,489
so many years ago and I forget how many years,
one Guy John Cann who was paralysed for 11

1044
01:48:38,300 --> 01:48:45,300
years and he actually walked on Carlton Television
News. In between two parallel bars but you

1045
01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:50,320
can see his legs moving his feet moving, he
got his bowl control back he got his bladder

1046
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:57,320
control back so he passed it on to his friends
at the SAS and this other guy who I can;t

1047
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:04,800
mention his name but I think his injury was
similar length of time to to what you have

1048
01:49:05,719 --> 01:49:12,719
just described there and he said if all that
I get back is my dignity I will be very happy.,

1049
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:20,960
He got his bowel and bladder control back.
After 30 odd years.

1050
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:25,690
Incredible incredible.
But of course if we can intervene at an earlier

1051
01:49:25,690 --> 01:49:32,619
stage and prevent these people from being
on a flat bed in the first place then the

1052
01:49:32,619 --> 01:49:37,679
Sky is the limit.
Yes, well fantastic.

1053
01:49:37,679 --> 01:49:43,340
So for those people that are listening you
are saying before we came on air that you

1054
01:49:43,340 --> 01:49:46,469
are going to write a book or you are in the
process of writing a book?

1055
01:49:46,469 --> 01:49:50,510
Yes.
The book title is going to be called the Gravity

1056
01:49:50,510 --> 01:49:55,360
of Life. Hope you like the choice of the title.
Yes very good

1057
01:49:55,360 --> 01:50:02,360
It's been written a couple of times and I
wouldn't have done it justice I needed to

1058
01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:07,060
have got to this stage before I could have
done the whole subject justice.

1059
01:50:07,060 --> 01:50:12,880
Well that's my excuse anyway and Yeah I think
it's gonna be a real eye opener.

1060
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:18,760
Well hopefully it will be a best seller as
well, when do you think that might come out?

1061
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:25,760
Well it needs to be finished through this
winter and hopefully published in the spring.

1062
01:50:26,630 --> 01:50:32,460
And if people want to see more of your work
what is your website?

1063
01:50:32,460 --> 01:50:37,730
It is inclinedbedtherapy.com
Inclined Bed Therapy Dot Com Excellent

1064
01:50:37,730 --> 01:50:42,830
Well we have a Facebook as well where people
are sharing what is happening to them and

1065
01:50:42,830 --> 01:50:49,210
you will find and again it goes by the same
name on Facebook Inclined Bed Therapy, we

1066
01:50:49,210 --> 01:50:53,860
have a group and a page and there is quite
a few people there who have been sleeping

1067
01:50:53,860 --> 01:50:59,020
on an angled bed for a long time and they
will be willing to share their experiences.

1068
01:50:59,020 --> 01:51:06,020
There is one lady in particular on there Terri,
her name is Terri Harrison she doesn't believe

1069
01:51:10,010 --> 01:51:16,570
that she has ms any more it has gone completely,
her neurologist has actually told her that

1070
01:51:16,570 --> 01:51:23,570
she doesn't need him any more. So that is
quite remarkable but she is there for people

1071
01:51:23,650 --> 01:51:27,860
to talk to amongst many other people who are
trying it.

1072
01:51:27,860 --> 01:51:33,639
The problem is you are armed with this information,
you have listened to this radio station and

1073
01:51:33,639 --> 01:51:36,849
you will go out there and you will try and
convince someone and they will just look at

1074
01:51:36,849 --> 01:51:43,040
you as if you have gone daft. You know I don't
know why it is, I used to chase wheelchairs

1075
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:48,580
and try and help people but I stopped that
a long time ago no body listens.

1076
01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:54,090
Well it's a great shame, the words I hear
quite often are if that where true the doctors

1077
01:51:54,090 --> 01:52:01,090
would have told me..
Yes Yes, The one I hear all the time is is

1078
01:52:01,239 --> 01:52:07,110
if it was true then there would be a clinically
controlled double blinded trial and we would

1079
01:52:07,110 --> 01:52:13,690
have all of the data by now. But actually
the people that say this have no idea what

1080
01:52:13,690 --> 01:52:20,690
we are up against. No idea whatsoever! You
can't move these people! They are in the process

1081
01:52:21,380 --> 01:52:26,849
of the status quo, they like the status quo
and the last thing they want to do is be made

1082
01:52:26,849 --> 01:52:33,150
to look a fool and a lot of them believe me
are fools.

1083
01:52:33,150 --> 01:52:37,460
Well quite, so have we covered all of the
things that it will do?

1084
01:52:37,460 --> 01:52:44,460
No No No, I just get... I try and think back
to what we have talked about, we have talked

1085
01:52:48,639 --> 01:52:55,639
about scar tissue, we have talked about the
immune system especially with the ebola but

1086
01:52:56,909 --> 01:53:03,909
also that same applies to people with aids
and hiv, the same problem there is a diminished

1087
01:53:06,260 --> 01:53:13,260
immune response so.
Yes, Ok there is a guy who has died now which

1088
01:53:19,530 --> 01:53:26,530
was unfortunate, but when I met him this guy
called Danny he had months to live with leukaemia

1089
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:34,840
and we tilted the bed and his blood cell count
started to normalise and have to cross check

1090
01:53:35,610 --> 01:53:41,790
here just to at this point in time that when
astronauts go into space their white blood

1091
01:53:41,790 --> 01:53:47,739
cell count goes up and their red blood cell
count drops. So clearly gravity is playing

1092
01:53:47,739 --> 01:53:54,739
a role.
And when we tilted Danny's bed his white blood

1093
01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:59,980
cell count dropped and his red blood cell
count went up, which is the exact opposite

1094
01:53:59,980 --> 01:54:06,980
of what leukaemia is. This guy comes over
from Boston as specialist in leukaemia and

1095
01:54:10,130 --> 01:54:17,130
he can't believe the changes. So anyway this
guy doesn't need the chemotherapy and the

1096
01:54:21,980 --> 01:54:28,980
radio therapy any more so comes back to Paignton
from Cornwall and they take his bed off him

1097
01:54:29,940 --> 01:54:35,389
because he can't move that bed out of one
area to another area so he goes back to sleeping

1098
01:54:35,389 --> 01:54:39,630
on a flat bed.
Immediately his blood cell count goes hey

1099
01:54:39,630 --> 01:54:45,199
wire and this guy from Boston get's on the
phone and says what has happened, what has

1100
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:50,219
changed? So he told him about the bed, so
the guy from Boston said the bed Danny, get

1101
01:54:50,219 --> 01:54:57,219
then bed back on an angle. And he did and
he lived well I can't remember exactly but

1102
01:54:58,500 --> 01:55:05,500
I think it was like five or six years and
he was given months to live.

1103
01:55:07,429 --> 01:55:14,429
Wow
So that I would suspect as well that there

1104
01:55:16,060 --> 01:55:23,060
is a danger with the bed that it can actually
increased the effectiveness of drugs and again

1105
01:55:26,150 --> 01:55:32,429
if you take the astronauts in space, they
have to increase the doses in space because

1106
01:55:32,429 --> 01:55:38,230
the uptake while they are out there which
is the equivalent of being on a flat bed,

1107
01:55:38,230 --> 01:55:43,570
decreases the effectiveness of the drugs so
they increaser the drugs to support their

1108
01:55:43,570 --> 01:55:49,739
immune system or whatever problems they have
and I believe that when you have the bed on

1109
01:55:49,739 --> 01:55:55,170
an angle the opposite occurs and you have
to think about decreasing the drugs.

1110
01:55:55,170 --> 01:56:01,429
It could be a good thing.
Yeah but I have to be careful here because

1111
01:56:01,429 --> 01:56:06,900
if a doctor is prescribing those drugs to
you and you have got all of your faith in

1112
01:56:06,900 --> 01:56:13,900
that doctor then you have to make these choices
yourself and not just on what I am saying

1113
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:21,560
here but it is quite easy to monitor whether
the drug is being more effective or not so

1114
01:56:23,860 --> 01:56:28,860
decide for yourselves.
Right very interesting and hopefully people

1115
01:56:28,860 --> 01:56:34,389
who are listening to this will try the inclined
bed therapy method and will get back to Andrew

1116
01:56:34,389 --> 01:56:40,780
or myself to let us know what positive results
you get because clearly

1117
01:56:40,780 --> 01:56:45,090
Well negative results as well Clive, you know
I am interested in things that it doesn't

1118
01:56:45,090 --> 01:56:48,599
work with as well.
Yep yes clearly.

1119
01:56:48,599 --> 01:56:55,599
We have got about two minutes left and I would
just like to say that myself I have a weekend

1120
01:57:00,389 --> 01:57:07,070
workshop from next month from the 15th and
the 16th of November, held in Wiltshire and

1121
01:57:07,070 --> 01:57:13,489
if any body wanted to come to the weekend
workshop we will be covering every aspect

1122
01:57:13,489 --> 01:57:20,489
of physical health and also mind mastering
because clearly there is so much one can do

1123
01:57:21,469 --> 01:57:26,869
with the power of the mind that people are
unaware of and with the raised bed therapy

1124
01:57:26,869 --> 01:57:33,869
and all of the other stuff, treatments and
remedies that we know of... frankly there

1125
01:57:35,210 --> 01:57:42,210
is almost nothing that can't be solved, I
used to think that people on dialysis couldn't

1126
01:57:42,510 --> 01:57:49,159
get off but you can get off dialysis in not
every case possibly but in a lot of cases

1127
01:57:49,159 --> 01:57:56,159
and I am going to start now, I mean I already
have been but I am really going to suggest

1128
01:57:57,199 --> 01:58:03,920
to all of my clients big time that every single
one of them does the Inclined Bed and I will

1129
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:09,290
let you know what occurs.
Yes, please please please, the feedback is

1130
01:58:09,290 --> 01:58:14,670
so important every little bit of feedback
that we get means that eventually another

1131
01:58:14,670 --> 01:58:21,670
clinical trial will be made and when we actually
get some progress within the medical profession

1132
01:58:22,929 --> 01:58:29,929
then these reports will be so important because
anecdotal evidence one could be deemed as

1133
01:58:33,330 --> 01:58:37,739
a miracle, two could be a coincidence three
is just plain science.

1134
01:58:37,739 --> 01:58:44,739
We are at the end of the show now, than you
so much Andrew. My email is Clive at ancientpurity.com

1135
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:52,739
so if anyone wants to get in touch with me
they are very welcome. Also got a website

1136
01:58:52,739 --> 01:58:59,080
called ancientpurity.com and another one called
healthgenious.uk and so thank you very much

1137
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:03,739
Andrew Thank you every body for listening.
Thank you for having me on Clive.

1138
01:59:03,739 --> 01:59:10,739
Well thank you so much I really appreciate
all of your time and that's it from us good

1139
01:59:11,770 --> 01:59:18,770
night.
Good night people.