Inclined Bed Therapy

Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT)

Sleeping Inclined To Restore and Support Your Health For Free. Fascinating Science, Discovery, History and Medical Research In Circulation And Posture, by Andrew K Fletcher

 

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So, some, I don't even know how long ago it
was. Ill ask Andrew,

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Andrew Fletcher was on and he talked about
Inclined Bed Therapy.

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This is our follow up show. So if you raised
the head of your bed six inches Per Andrew,

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why don't you email in or call in and tell
us what your experience has been, good bad

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or indifferent. We are not just trying to
stack the deck here. So If you haven't felt

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anything, that's ok.
Call in or email in and let us know, we want

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to know.
That's what this show is about we are doing

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a little follow up and I want to learn a little
bit more about why this is what it is with

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Andrew Fletcher
Andrew, where do you live?

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I live in Paignton in Devon.
I'm sorry?

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Paignton in Devon
In Devon, which is in England Right?

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In England yes.
Good afternoon to you and good morning here.

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How are you?
I'm very good thank you Patrick and good morning

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to you aswell.
Yep

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Devon where is that in relation to say London?
It's er, London is on the East coast and Devon

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is on the South West coast
Hmm Hm Huh

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Is it raining there like it usually does in
England?

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No Beautiful sunny day
Really? Have you lived there all your life?

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No we have been down here 26 years now, we
are refugees from the Midlands

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Huh Huh
And er, in a couple of days, I think tomorrow,

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Scotland is voting on in or out, what do you
think?

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Erm, Well, I think Scotland could well go
alone, Yeah I don't see any problems with

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you know other countries have done this so
I don't really see any problems with Scotland

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doing the same.
Hm Hm If Queen mum will let them out.

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Unless they rig the vote, I don't think she
will have much of a say in it.

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You know there are people who say if voting
really mattered they would have outlawed it

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so we will just have to see it's you know
it's not, erm don't get me started, it's who

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counts the votes right?
So Andrew when were you on here last?

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It's been three months almost.
Has it really?

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Yes.
Well I unlined my bed about two weeks after

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our show, six inches and I have to tell you
I'm feeling better and better and better and

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of course I do a lot of things so I can't
say to you honestly well this has really done

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this or this has really done that, cus I do
a lot of crazy stuff, You know me I'm always

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trying something different, but I'm felling
better and better every day, I don't know

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if I can attribute that to inclining my bed
or not.

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Tell folks the basic premise of this who didn't
here your first show?

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It's well I won't go into the full theory
on trees just how it applies to the body would

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probably suffice for today.
Okay.

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If anyone needs to see the full explanation,
they have the other interview.

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There is a density change in the blood. The
literature states that gravity doesn't play

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a role in circulation because it acts equally
on the blood flowing down as it does on the

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blood returning. So therefore can't play a
role

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What the scientists and the medical people
have forgotten to take into account is that

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when we evaporate water from our lungs, the
blood that supplies the fluid to the lungs

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becomes denser as a result of shedding the
water, because we are evaporating pure water

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from a liquid that contains dissolved solids,
dissolved minerals, sugars, metals, so it

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is impossible to evaporate that water without
changing the density of that blood. That blood

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then passes through the heart, enters the
main artery and then is dragged down by gravity

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so gravity. If we can imagine, for every breath
we take is the equivalent of placing a pinch

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of salt in the arterial blood at the top of
the arterial tree,

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Really?
so if we are the right way round according

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to gravity, I.E. standing up and sometimes
sitting, if we are sitting correctly, although

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you can sit incorrectly which can affect circulation,
I.E. wheel chair posture, if you are sitting

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with your knees slightly lower than your seat
or level with your seat then gravity can assist

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the circulation by dragging on those tiny
density changes drawing the blood down to

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the kidneys and the kidneys filter out the
blood as it passes through the kidneys and

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then we excrete the spent salts in our urine
so the blood that passes through the kidneys

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becomes less dense, which means the upward
flowing blood is always less dense than the

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downward flowing blood.
Okay

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Aright and then how does this relate to this
relate then to raising your head?

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Well if we raise the head end of the bed,
then we can have gravity assisting the circulation

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24 hours a day instead of being interrupted
by up to eight hours or even longer in some

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cases with horizontal bed rest.
If all of the vessels in the body are placed

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along a mattress that is flat, then gravity
is acting perpendicular to those vessels,

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so it is still applying a force to those salts
and minerals in the blood, but now it is acting

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as a brake, it is not assisting those salts
to migrate through the vessels, it's actually

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pushing them down towards the mattress.
That is causing a slowing down of the circulation.

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Yes we have a heart, but what we are talking
about here is something that gives that little

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extra you know to the circulation.
And I believe that, well I have shown that

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it has a profound affect on our circulation.
Even in cases of gangrene, cases of leg ulcers,

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my Father had 3 varicose ulcers and he had
had them for 25 years and they did heal up.

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When he inclined his bed?
Yes

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I'll be darned
So it's helping the whole system work at night

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with circulation without extra strain on the
heart?

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Yes, it actually slows the heart rate down
by 10 to 12 beats per minute.

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Which is good.
And it slows the respiration rate by 4 to

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five breaths per minute.
Now the reason it slows down the respiration

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rate is because the lungs inflate more, so
if they are inflating longer and then deflating

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longer, then the lungs do not have to inflate
as many times.

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Hmmm hmm
And the same with the heart rate, I believe

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is that the heart stroke is actually improved
on the sloping bed.

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Ohh, heart stroke in other words, the force,
erm how would you explain that?

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Well, it's the erm, well like all pumps it
inflates the same as the lungs with the blood

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to a greater extent and forces the blood out
to a greater extent, so that extra swelling

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of the heart and contracting of the heart
takes a little longer, so over the course

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of a minute then it does have a significant
reduction on the heart rate.

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Hmm Hmm
Do you think that would help to accommodate

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a more restful nights sleep?
Yes without a doubt, quite a few people who

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have sleep problems, I.E. erm night time paralysis,
erm, you know they have reported phenomenal

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benefits in sleep pattern
Hmm hmm Andrew Fletcher is with us, if you

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have inclined your bed after the last show,
email us and call us and let us know what

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you felt. 8886636386 I know a lot of you did,
I was getting emails in. Patrick at One Radio

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Network Dot Com
Well my sleep which I have an issue with from

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many years has certainly improved in the last
3 months. There is just no doubt about that!

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It's still not where it's gonna be, but it
has improved. Of course I have done a lot

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of different things.
I would like to learn a little bit more about

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this whole idea with the blood and the thickness
and does it affect the blood in any way that

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you know of that as far as all the ldl's and
the thickness and the fibrin and all that

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stuff do we know?
Well, I would think that, just thinking about

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it, if we increase the circulation and as
we have just described, erm we have aligned

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ourself so that the kidneys can function a
little better, so that getting rid of toxins,

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erm getting rid of spent salts and some waste
from the blood, should be accomplished a lot

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better with the bed on an angle and to test
this, my wife and I, we measured the density

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of our urine.
Oh you did?

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Yes we did and this is incredible
Erm, we measured our urine density while we

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were horizontal, we measured the urine density
while we were in normal daily routine, walking

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and sitting around and we measured the density
of our urine while we were on an angle on

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the inclined bed and then we measured the
density while we were sleeping head down in

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the opposite direction.
Hmm Hmm

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Really?
Yeah I see

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Yes, what we found was that IBT actually improved
the density of the urine or increased the

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density of the urine, over and above our normal
daily activity.

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And Horizontal bed rest decreased the density
of urine, in other words the kidneys were

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not functioning as well while we were on a
horizontal bed and the icing on the cake

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When we tilted the bed head down and feet
up, apart from us both getting diarrhoea,

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because this is a great slimming aid, which
is definitely not advisable for anyone to

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practice this.
But the urine density went down to near water

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readings.
Really?

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In other words no mineral salts and no waste
was ending up in our urine.

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So in theory or in practice or in science,
the density the better, the higher the density

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the better the meaning that the kidneys are
filtering more efficiently?

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Well, if the kidneys are filtering more efficiently
that means that the density is actually lowered

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more as the blood passes through the kidneys,
so the blood before it enters the venous return

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becomes less dense as a result of us being
aligned correctly with gravity.

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Oh so when you incline the head end the density
goes down?

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Yes
Which is bad?

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The density goes up in the arterial side and
goes down in the venous return.

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Ok
I'm not sure I quite understand?

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Well if you think about we are on an angle
so our respiration rate has improved, as Dr

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Masey reported our oxygen sats have gone up.
Hmm Hmm

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That was a fantastic interview
So if we are increasing the load on the arterial

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side we are increasing the density on the
arterial side so the blood flowing down becomes

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slightly denser as a result of tilting the
bed

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Ok
In other words the salts are not being stored

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in the blood as they would be if we were horizontal,
therefore those salts are being filtered better

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with the bed on an angle. I.E. the kidneys
are able to remove more of the waste and the

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salts into the urine, so the blood in the
venous return actually becomes less dense

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than if we were on a.
Horizontal

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Yes horizontal bed
Yeah I got you.

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Erm, 15 minutes after the hour with Andrew
Fletcher.

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Patrick at One Radio Network dot com
Your experiences here.

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I listened to an earlier show, writes Kimmmy
with Andrew Fletcher and his Inclined Bed

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Therapy
I slept well, but I began waking most mornings

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with aches and pains in the joints. Soreness
in lower back and neck. This has been going

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on for some weeks, so I got my husband to
set up the bed head on six inches blocks of

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wood from 27th June 2014. Immediately the
next morning I woke up with no joint pain

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at all and from 28th June to this day I have
not been troubled by any pain after sleeping

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in the inclined position and my husband is
snoring less and not as noisily. Thanks to

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Andrew and Patrick.
Huh

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Fantastic
Ain't that great

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So what do you explain what your research
has shown why this is what this person has

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experienced with joint pain?
What's going on?

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It's all about circulation. If we can increase
the circulation

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then we are actually reducing the damage caused
to joints. We are assisting the repairs to

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take care of what has happened during the
day before.

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If we are on a horizontal bed, well NASA in
fact have shown that a horizontal bed even

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over a 24 hour period can actually cause de-calcification,
so that means that the joints can be de-calcified

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as well.
Well what we have seen is that the opposite

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can be achieved, particularly one lady Ruby
Tate, I think I mentioned her on the last

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show, erm she had osteoporosis and she tilted
her bed and Ruby couldn't she couldn't turn

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herself around, she had no movement in the
neck, which was also very painful.

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Now osteoporosis is de-calcification of the
bones, so the bones become brittle, a lot

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of people experience this when they get older.
And, well she tilted the bed and she was actually

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featured on the local TV news, and she was
able to turn her head, so the joints had had

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some restorative affect from the bed. She
could dress herself, put her bra on which

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she couldn't do before, she was able to turn
over in bed.

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Again so it proves that the circulation is
very important, well we know how important

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the circulation is because if the circulation
stops we are no longer a viable human being.

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And so NASA, that's why they put their head
up in an inclined position when they fly around

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for thirty days.
Erm, well there would be some benefit from

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that because er a lot of people have the understanding
that people in space are actually in zero

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gravity but they are not.
You know to get away from the influence of

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the Earth, you would have to go beyond the
moon, way beyond the moon, because the moon

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influences the Earth's tides so the earth,
is you know, erm the gravity from the moon

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actually counteracts the earth's gravitational
field, so being in space is micro-gravity,

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so while we are in space erm, there is some
beneficial effect undoubtedly from the earth's'

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gravitational field, so I am not sure that
having the head up while they are in space

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would make a great deal of difference, in
fact all of the exercising and all of the

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methods they have got to try and reduce the
amount of damaging effects of being in micro-gravity

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don't seem to be helping a great deal.
What do you think the issue, what are the

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causes of varicose veins or what they call
this chronic venous insufficiency, which is

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pretty common these days?
Something is going on with the veins?

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Well, the general feeling as we discussed
in the last interview was that the valves

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were playing a role and erm, it's the failure
of these valves that are causing the veins

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to bulge, but if it is the failure of these
valves then how come Inclined Bed Therapy

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has actually reversed varicose veins?
You know obviously someone who has severe

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varicose problem will take a great deal longer
than several weeks or even several months.

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Sure
You know to get the full benefits, you know

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a fairly substantial vein can go flat in four
weeks, erm now if this is happening then clearly

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it can't be the valves.
It can't be it has to be something else.

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No it can't it has to be something else, now
what I believe is happening there is that

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the downward flow is stimulated by gravity,
dragging upon the density changes in the blood.

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Now if we apply this dragging effect by gravity
to the blood, to the molecules in the blood,

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that applies tension to every molecule, in
not only in the arterial blood flow but also

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in the venous return and that will affect
every single drop of blood in the body, so

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that applying tension would lower the pressure
in the veins and would also by applying tension

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cause the blood to actually pull the veins
in.

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So that would, well that is in my opinion
why IBT is working for chronic venous insufficiency.

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So the chronic venous insufficiency or the
people get the edema and er is that a Kidney

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thing? Or a gravity thing do you think? Do
we know?

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Well again, oedema is caused by and this is
erm accepted is that the pressure inside the

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veins becomes greater than the pressure from
the surrounding tissue

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so that the fluids migrate from the blood
into the surrounding tissue causing the lower

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limbs to swell.
Now the exact opposite occurred when we tilted

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peoples beds. We have had some phenomenal
results in oedema

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have been achieved by raising the head end
of the bed, which is ironic really because

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the medical profession say that you need to
raise the legs in order to shift the fluid

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back up to the trunk.
Yeah that's what

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Yeah that's great because all you are doing
is shifting the fluid around the body, whereas

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IBT is actually pulling the fluid.
Because you have reversed the pressure problem

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or solved the pressure problem, the fluids
start migrating back from the surrounding

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tissue into the veins, whipped around the
circulation, through the kidneys and excreted

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in the urine.
So initially someone with oedema would probably

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notice that their you know none-stop trips
to the bathroom while the excess fluid is

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being pulled into the venous return.
So that's what could be er a lot of people

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when they are peeing, it could just be that
the body is working just fine?

0:19:57.210,0:20:02.090
Yes
Huhh Huhh Hmm Hmmm Yes it is interesting Andrew

0:20:02.090,0:20:07.870
that when most guys that that happens to go
straight to the prostate but it maybe not,

0:20:07.870,0:20:13.480
it maybe more of a kidney bladder thing that
the body is just getting rid of fluid like

0:20:13.480,0:20:15.490
it is supposed to?
Yes,

0:20:15.490,0:20:22.490
Dr, erm, hang on a minute what was his name
now? Brain dead as well. I have forgot the

0:20:25.320,0:20:25.720
guy's name.

0:20:25.720,0:20:31.789
A vascular, Peter Lewis a vascular surgeon,
erm again I mentioned this the last time,

0:20:31.789,0:20:38.080
er he had a patient at Torbay Hospital and
erm, during our conversation at his home,

0:20:38.080,0:20:45.080
he said well, I have put your theory to the
test with a patient. She is severely swollen

0:20:45.179,0:20:51.830
she has ascites which is a problem with the
liver and we have tried the diuretics, nothing

0:20:51.830,0:20:58.730
seams to work. He described her as being like
a giant water balloon, he said he had real

0:20:58.730,0:21:05.730
problems trying to get to the bottom of this
and tilted her bed. He literally left his

0:21:05.980,0:21:11.320
house and went to the hospital to check this
lady and came back.

0:21:11.320,0:21:16.360
And he said he couldn't believe the difference,
he said it is just incredible. No diuretic

0:21:16.360,0:21:19.919
has ever had that affect.
I'll be darned.

0:21:19.919,0:21:21.679
Yes
Andrew Fletcher is here, if you raised the

0:21:21.679,0:21:27.130
head of your bed call us or email us and let
us know your experience.

0:21:27.130,0:21:34.130
Patrick at oneradionetwork.com is the email
Telephone number 8886636386 You can check

0:21:34.289,0:21:40.090
out Andrew's website after the show.
inclinedbedtherapy.com Inclined Bed Therapy

0:21:40.090,0:21:46.190
Dot Com
6 inches, get some books, that's what I do,

0:21:46.190,0:21:51.039
talking with Andrew Fletcher it's our follow
up show about 3 months ago asking you if you

0:21:51.039,0:21:56.830
inclined your bed? If you would be inclined
to email us and let us know some of your experiences.

0:21:56.830,0:22:03.830
Or call 8886636386 Patrick At One Radio Network
Dot Com Inclined Bed Therapy Dot Com Andrew

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Fletcher is in Devon
There near Queen Mum In England

0:22:10.590,0:22:17.590
Where it's probably I dunno maybe 4.30 or
so in the afternoon where Andrew is.

0:22:20.309,0:22:24.860
Hi Sharon Hi Patrick
I started doing the Inclined Bed Therapy the

0:22:24.860,0:22:31.860
first week of July I have two herniated disks
L4 and L5 and I have had chronic pain for

0:22:32.830,0:22:36.750
the last eight years.
I have spent thousands of dollar on ineffective

0:22:36.750,0:22:39.710
treatments until I listened to this show on
Inclined Bed Therapy.

0:22:39.710,0:22:44.640
I was unable to sleep on my left side due
to numbness in this position.

0:22:44.640,0:22:49.610
I am delighted to announce that after two
days of using inclined bed therapy and four

0:22:49.610,0:22:55.039
dollars worth of wood I am now able to sleep
on my left side without any numbness. I am

0:22:55.039,0:23:00.600
so grateful.
I do tell people, So far I am the only taker.

0:23:00.600,0:23:02.710
Much love to you from Janet.

0:23:02.710,0:23:08.410
Well my goodness
Isn't that great

0:23:08.410,0:23:13.160
That's fantastic
Isn't that great

0:23:13.160,0:23:17.660
So what do you make of that I mean, I guess,
do you think the spine is happier in this

0:23:17.660,0:23:22.230
position?
Without a doubt. If you sleep on a horizontal

0:23:22.230,0:23:28.590
bed again you get the degeneration between
the joints and the compression that we have

0:23:28.590,0:23:35.510
encountered throughout the day with our weight
compressing the spinal column is not resolved

0:23:35.510,0:23:42.510
by sleeping on a flat bed or indeed by being
in a sitting position, which again compresses

0:23:43.230,0:23:46.370
the spine.
But when you are on a sloping bed, not only

0:23:46.370,0:23:51.730
do you improve the circulation, which goes
around and rehydrates all of the little cushions

0:23:51.730,0:23:54.530
between the joints.
The disks

0:23:54.530,0:23:58.169
Right the disks.
What we are doing is applying traction to

0:23:58.169,0:24:05.169
the spine, so yes a few people will complain
about aches but what we are seeing here is

0:24:05.380,0:24:11.299
a de-compression of the spine. Now decompression
is great for people with an injured spine

0:24:11.299,0:24:14.309
because that's exactly what you get from the
chiropractor

0:24:14.309,0:24:18.929
You get some decompression going on which
helps to pull the joints back into line.

0:24:18.929,0:24:25.400
Well You can do this gently over the course
of a few days or even a few months.

0:24:25.400,0:24:32.030
And that traction, well anyone that tries
IBT can actually feel the traction and this

0:24:32.030,0:24:37.929
is caused because your body is trying to move
down the bed, your weight is shifted and it's

0:24:37.929,0:24:43.530
held back by the friction between yourself
and the mattress and what this does is that

0:24:43.530,0:24:48.789
sheer force is applied to the spine.
It is also applied to the joints as well.

0:24:48.789,0:24:54.240
So it relieves the joints allowing the fluids
to get inside and actually cause some repairs.

0:24:54.240,0:25:01.240
And keep those disks nice and puffy, that's
what happens when folks get disk issues, they

0:25:01.470,0:25:04.020
kinda get dried up.
Yes

0:25:04.020,0:25:11.020
We have had some significant improvements
in a lady with Dowagers hump. It has actually

0:25:12.590,0:25:19.130
straightened out the spine.
A girl I mentioned on the last show with cerebral

0:25:19.130,0:25:24.850
palsy with severe curvature of the spine,
it corrected the curvature of the spine.

0:25:24.850,0:25:30.390
And people with spinal cord injury have found
huge benefits from sleeping on an inclined

0:25:30.390,0:25:31.740
bed.
Humm Huh

0:25:31.740,0:25:38.070
I have often read that folks will actually
flip themselves over in this inverted position

0:25:38.070,0:25:43.610
to decompress the spine, isn't that kind of
counter-intuitive to what you are saying?

0:25:43.610,0:25:50.610
I suppose well yes it is.
But what you are doing there is you are literally

0:25:51.419,0:25:55.059
using the bodies weight to apply traction
to the spine.

0:25:55.059,0:26:02.039
IBT is doing the same, but you get the adverse
effects of being head down as I explained

0:26:02.039,0:26:08.020
for example when my wife and I ended up with
diarrhoea because our gut wasn't functioning

0:26:08.020,0:26:15.020
properly while we were in the head down position.
And indeed NASA again bless them, have spent

0:26:15.330,0:26:21.590
many many thousands of dollars paying people
to sleep with their heads down and their feet

0:26:21.590,0:26:22.309
up.
Really?

0:26:22.309,0:26:29.309
Yeah Just to er see what happens with regards
to the degenerative affects of being head

0:26:29.909,0:26:36.909
down and feet up, so they have actually accelerated
the ageing process 10 times faster.

0:26:38.520,0:26:43.179
Really?
By having healthy subjects sleeping head down

0:26:43.179,0:26:48.870
feet up.
Haaa I'll be so and plus too with inclined

0:26:48.870,0:26:54.549
bed therapy you are getting eight hours or
so every day right?

0:26:54.549,0:26:57.330
Yes
And these inverted things that people are

0:26:57.330,0:26:59.600
flipped over for twenty minutes or somthing?
Yes

0:26:59.600,0:27:06.600
But I guess they would have their benefit
if they could stretch our or decompress the

0:27:06.850,0:27:13.850
spine in some way of which I guess they could?
Yes that could be achieved on an inverter,

0:27:14.549,0:27:19.909
but it could be achieved a lot easier and
a lot more safely on an inclined bed and at

0:27:19.909,0:27:21.980
a fraction of the cost.
Sure

0:27:21.980,0:27:25.730
So what do you suppose is going on with the
gut when you do the head down and you all

0:27:25.730,0:27:31.650
got diarrhoea that's pretty interesting?
It is interesting, I have heard that the actor

0:27:31.650,0:27:38.650
Marlon Brando was encouraged to sleep head
down because he had a huge problem with weight,

0:27:38.880,0:27:42.380
excuse the pun.
Yeah he did

0:27:42.380,0:27:49.380
But it didn't do mr Brando a lot of good as
we have learned.

0:27:49.500,0:27:56.500
What happens with the gut? Ok
If we go back again to the way that the tree

0:27:58.320,0:28:04.100
functions, the evaporation from the trees
leaves changes the density of the sap, gravity

0:28:04.100,0:28:09.320
pulls the denser sap down, that applies tension
to the downward flowing sap which stretches

0:28:09.320,0:28:14.390
back to the return flowing sap in the xylem.
But not only to the return flowing sap it

0:28:14.390,0:28:18.650
stretches back to the soil water, drawing
the soil water into the tree.

0:28:18.650,0:28:25.100
Well that tension affects the molecules of
water, even into the soil and the same applies

0:28:25.100,0:28:32.100
to the body.
In the explanation I gave before, the downward

0:28:33.380,0:28:39.190
flow generated by the evaporation from the
respiratory tract applies tension to the downward

0:28:39.190,0:28:44.929
flowing blood, which stretches back to the
venous return. That venous return actually

0:28:44.929,0:28:51.929
picks up fluid from the stomach gut. If that
fluid is dilute enough everything is hunky

0:28:53.470,0:29:00.279
dory, everything works fine. If we have overloaded
it with denser substances I.E. eating too

0:29:00.279,0:29:07.279
much salt. We can trigger diarrhoea yeah,
by having too much density in the gut contents.

0:29:08.549,0:29:15.000
Now we achieve that by tilting the bed around
in the opposite direction because the salts

0:29:15.000,0:29:20.200
were not being excreted in the urine, then
there was a density imbalance between the

0:29:20.200,0:29:26.460
fluids in the gut and the fluids in the blood.
So we interrupted it.

0:29:26.460,0:29:33.320
Hmm Hmm So you think that when we raise the
head it helps the body to get rid of any excess

0:29:33.320,0:29:37.880
salts.
Yes there is a detox going on for sure.

0:29:37.880,0:29:40.250
Ok
Which is important because who knows exactly

0:29:40.250,0:29:46.789
how much, I know we need salt it is very beneficial
but we don't really know how much I guess

0:29:46.789,0:29:48.549
every body is different.
Yes

0:29:48.549,0:29:55.549
There is still a bit of an argument as to
how dangerous too much salt is so certainly

0:29:56.390,0:30:02.299
I have seen dogs on the beach that have drank
too much sea water and they end up with projectile

0:30:02.299,0:30:02.950
diarrhoea.
Sure

0:30:02.950,0:30:07.980
I have seen this time and time again.
Of course that is different from sea salt,

0:30:07.980,0:30:12.159
I mean that's pretty, there's a lot of sodium
in ocean water.

0:30:12.159,0:30:12.940
Yes
Yeah

0:30:12.940,0:30:19.940
Are there, is there evidence that species
other than humans that know this technology?

0:30:24.140,0:30:31.140
Sleep with their head raised?
Yes, as we mentioned briefly cattle and sheep

0:30:32.809,0:30:39.809
in a field if there is a hill side there,
and they are laying down, they will all be

0:30:41.240,0:30:44.950
facing uphill.
There is some species of bats that again bats

0:30:44.950,0:30:50.000
hang upside down erm but there are some species
of bats that sleep upright.

0:30:50.000,0:30:56.840
What about the Chimps and apes?
Yes, again chimps sleep in trees, they make

0:30:56.840,0:31:03.840
a nest and sleep head up in the nest.
Lions in the zoo, I noticed during a recent

0:31:05.080,0:31:12.080
trip to the local zoo they have got a sloping
ramp with two posts and a turfed roof and

0:31:14.760,0:31:21.510
the lions are always facing up on the turfed
roof.

0:31:21.510,0:31:25.289
Andrew Fletcher is with us, Inclined Bed Therapy
If you have had some experience with raising

0:31:25.289,0:31:29.070
your bed up, email us: Patrick at one radio
network dot com.

0:31:29.070,0:31:30.390
This is from Shane

0:31:30.390,0:31:36.309
My input would be extremely favourable it's
like I am aware of the Earth's curvature and

0:31:36.309,0:31:40.720
I am sleeping on that curvature rather than
just lying on a flat earth.

0:31:40.720,0:31:45.320
Dreams are just so vivid and colourful I definitely
can't go back.

0:31:45.320,0:31:52.179
Humm that's fun
Again that's an interesting comment because

0:31:52.179,0:31:58.649
quite a few of us have reported vivid dreams.
It's very difficult to determine these are

0:31:58.649,0:32:05.610
dreams because it is so vivid.
And I believe that this is an improvement

0:32:05.610,0:32:11.149
in brain function while we are sleeping, so
we are able to remember our dreams, which

0:32:11.149,0:32:18.149
is something a lot of us can't do
What's the magic number with six inches raising

0:32:18.610,0:32:23.820
the bed six inches not 4 or 8?
What I did to determine this was I used a

0:32:23.820,0:32:29.350
loop of plastic tubing which I joined together
so it was a complete closed loop. The loop

0:32:29.350,0:32:35.260
was filled with water and some coloured salt
solution was added before the loop was closed.

0:32:35.260,0:32:41.090
That was then stretched along the bed and
I raised the bed up 4 inches and I got a downward

0:32:41.090,0:32:46.279
flow in the one side of the tube as the coloured
salt solution migrated down that side.

0:32:46.279,0:32:52.110
But I had a return flow over the top of it
in the same side of the tube. In other words

0:32:52.110,0:32:58.090
it didn't cause the whole of the fluid filled
tube to circulate.

0:32:58.090,0:33:03.149
It was a two tier directional flow in one
side of the tube,

0:33:03.149,0:33:09.830
When I raised the bed up a further inch up
to five inches, I managed to get the circulation

0:33:09.830,0:33:15.990
completely flowing so we had a down-flow in
one side of the loop and the return flow in

0:33:15.990,0:33:21.220
the opposite side of the loop. So that was
representing the arterial flow in the body

0:33:21.220,0:33:26.520
and the venous return in the blood and that
was the logic that I used for the angle of

0:33:26.520,0:33:31.080
the bed.
But interestingly enough, the ancient Egyptians

0:33:31.080,0:33:37.830
that I mentioned before got there before me.
In fact all of their beds in the tombs were

0:33:37.830,0:33:39.789
raised exactly 15 centimetres at the head
end.

0:33:39.789,0:33:44.559
No kidding, yes you mentioned that before,
that's crazy. The ancient Egyptians, they

0:33:44.559,0:33:48.080
figured it out.
Yes they did

0:33:48.080,0:33:51.590
That's amazing
I wonder how they did that?

0:33:51.590,0:33:55.850
You know they were pretty creative people.
They built pyramids and stuff.

0:33:55.850,0:34:02.779
I would think another we have noticed on the
sloping bed is that if you have been working

0:34:02.779,0:34:09.200
hard, doing manual labour, your muscles ache
the next day, you know even sports people.

0:34:09.200,0:34:11.749
Sure
Soccer stars, you know people that are engaged

0:34:11.749,0:34:17.709
in strenuous activities get a lot of damage
to the muscles and they get a lot of aching.

0:34:17.709,0:34:24.009
I should imagine that the people working on
the pyramids were experiencing some discomfort.

0:34:24.009,0:34:29.190
You think he?
Without a doubt, they were shifting some impressive

0:34:29.190,0:34:36.190
pieces of rock around with very limited tools.
So I would think that you know one or two

0:34:37.509,0:34:42.709
of them would have slept on a slope somehow
and noticed that they were not aching as much.

0:34:42.709,0:34:48.119
You know someone, I'm just guessing here that
that is probably how it developed, someone

0:34:48.119,0:34:55.119
realised that you are not getting as much,
my son calls it something, he works out, he

0:34:55.669,0:35:02.669
uses weights. And he has noticed as well that
after he has done his work out if he is sleeping

0:35:03.269,0:35:09.739
on an inclined bed his problems are far less
in the morning than if he has been sleeping

0:35:09.739,0:35:15.880
on a flat bed. When sleeping on a flat bed
it's taking him a couple of days to get over

0:35:15.880,0:35:20.700
the damage that he has caused to his muscles.
Because that's what happens, you tear muscles

0:35:20.700,0:35:23.589
and they repair and that's how you get bigger
muscles.

0:35:23.589,0:35:28.739
You know it's interesting, I don't know if
this means anything I do quite a bit of spiritual

0:35:28.739,0:35:35.739
exercises and you know, I go to the other
realms and play around you know.

0:35:36.019,0:35:43.019
And we are taught in my spiritual discipline
that it's actually more beneficial or easier

0:35:45.469,0:35:50.769
to leave your body in a sitting position than
it is lying down.

0:35:50.769,0:35:57.410
and I find out that I can do I can have more
profound experiences in a sitting position

0:35:57.410,0:36:04.410
than I do spiritual exercises actually lying
down. I wonder what that's about, something

0:36:05.170,0:36:08.450
there.
Yes the brains functioning better while we

0:36:08.450,0:36:12.299
are in the upright position. I believe that's
why.

0:36:12.299,0:36:15.469
You think that's why it is?
Yes it gave us a huge advantage over every

0:36:15.469,0:36:17.769
other species on the planet.
Haa haa may be so

0:36:17.769,0:36:22.219
When we stood up vertical it completely changed
the way our circulation worked.

0:36:22.219,0:36:27.989
Really? So in general is it healthier to stand
than sit?

0:36:27.989,0:36:34.989
Yes, but again if we see a guard on duty,
we have all seen the silly videos of people

0:36:35.269,0:36:40.569
falling over at weddings where they are standing
motionless and they pass out, yes the guards

0:36:40.569,0:36:45.380
would do the same, but the guards tend to
shift their weight from one leg to the other

0:36:45.380,0:36:50.049
leg, you can't actually see them doing it
but they are gently rocking from side to side

0:36:50.049,0:36:56.569
moving their weight and what this is doing,
this is causing the tissue beneath the feet

0:36:56.569,0:37:03.420
to act as a pump, so that it is actually helping
the circulation, so if you can imagine when

0:37:03.420,0:37:09.059
you put your foot down on a car foot pump
you blow air into the tyre, but you are also

0:37:09.059,0:37:12.390
compressing the fluid beneath the foot.
Okay

0:37:12.390,0:37:15.859
So when you take your foot off and put your
foot back down as if you were walking you

0:37:15.859,0:37:21.950
are actually benefiting from this but if you
are standing motionless, I.E. your job requires

0:37:21.950,0:37:26.069
you to stand motionless.
Like the guards at Buckingham Palace or something.

0:37:26.069,0:37:30.700
Yes, you could be in serious trouble if you
don't weight shift.

0:37:30.700,0:37:34.209
Sure
Because what you have done therei s you have

0:37:34.209,0:37:40.400
actually compressed the vessels below the
feet and that is having an affect on the circulatory

0:37:40.400,0:37:47.390
system. Not just blood circulation but also
cerebro-spinal-fluid circulation as well.

0:37:47.390,0:37:52.809
So that's why they blame sometimes edema and
chronic venous insufficiency on standing but

0:37:52.809,0:37:56.569
what they are not saying is that if you move
around then it's not an issue?

0:37:56.569,0:37:57.880
That's right
Right

0:37:57.880,0:38:00.920
In fact it's better for you?
Yes

0:38:00.920,0:38:03.009
It's better
They encourage people with varicose veins,

0:38:03.009,0:38:07.910
especially if they have just had surgery to
get as much walking in as you can.

0:38:07.910,0:38:12.729
Okay, that's why walking is so beneficial,
it makes everything like the rebounding that

0:38:12.729,0:38:19.209
we talk about, it makes everything work.
Yes it's interesting, I began standing up

0:38:19.209,0:38:24.459
about 3 weeks ago doing my show and actually
working on my computer most of the day I am

0:38:24.459,0:38:29.219
standing. I am standing right now and with
my headsets and microphone, I can dance around

0:38:29.219,0:38:35.180
like I am doing now, on my tip toes or I can
do deep knee bends during the commercial and

0:38:35.180,0:38:42.180
so I feel better standing up I just do I feel
more energy standing up you know.

0:38:44.410,0:38:48.950
Sitting is a huge problem as well.
Why is that, what's going on scientifically

0:38:48.950,0:38:55.950
Andrew with sitting?
Again, we need that free passage down to our

0:38:56.799,0:38:59.719
feet. If we have got our knees higher than
our seat.

0:38:59.719,0:39:02.979
If you have got your knees what? Sorry say
that again.

0:39:02.979,0:39:08.309
Higher than our seat. You know if we have
got our knees raised and our seat is lower.

0:39:08.309,0:39:11.499
Okay
Yes, then what we have done is we have introduced

0:39:11.499,0:39:18.499
a brake on the circulation and that together
with the pressure on the buttocks can actually

0:39:19.369,0:39:23.749
slow down the circulation, just as I have
explained with the tissue beneath the feet,

0:39:23.749,0:39:30.200
that pressure constantly can slow down everything
in the body and can actually cause you to

0:39:30.200,0:39:34.619
go to sleep.
And in fact, I took the main boardroom at

0:39:34.619,0:39:41.619
Jaguar. Jaguar cars. I was there for 2 hours
and they said they had never been so captivated

0:39:41.819,0:39:47.259
by an explanation as how a driving seat could
make someone fall asleep at the wheel.

0:39:47.259,0:39:49.589
Because your knees are actually higher than
your booty?

0:39:49.589,0:39:55.200
Yes, yes and I was explaining to the people
at Jaguar that if they re-designed the seats

0:39:55.200,0:39:59.719
and raised the seat up slightly so that it
was at least level with the knees or possibly

0:39:59.719,0:40:04.400
a little bit higher, then that would prevent
people from falling asleep at the wheel.

0:40:04.400,0:40:11.180
And I added that people in trucks, where they
have got these taller seats they don't get

0:40:11.180,0:40:18.140
so tired. And in fact I did some experiments
myself and added a few extra cushions and

0:40:18.140,0:40:23.049
went on a huge journey in a car which I had
done before, which slaughters me when I get

0:40:23.049,0:40:28.459
out the car I am unable to walk. We have all
done that, travelled too far without stopping

0:40:28.459,0:40:35.459
and yet when I put the cushions underneath
my seat, I got out of the car as if I hadn't

0:40:36.630,0:40:41.849
been on a journey.
Ohhh, because you got the knees lower than

0:40:41.849,0:40:42.719
your booty.
Yes

0:40:42.719,0:40:47.759
I felt fresh, You know I felt fresh as a daisy
Because the whole pump thing is working when

0:40:47.759,0:40:49.779
it is like that?
Yes

0:40:49.779,0:40:55.259
Hmmm Hmmm That's why people who do sit a lot,
they have a really good experience like I

0:40:55.259,0:40:59.349
have with a chair here that I don't use any
more, but it's from a back store and it is

0:40:59.349,0:41:06.349
just like a round ball kind of thing that
it is on springs and when you sit, your sitting

0:41:07.900,0:41:12.839
your knees are way lower than your booty and
you can actually bounce on it.

0:41:12.839,0:41:16.640
And I never really got tired using that.
That's interesting.

0:41:16.640,0:41:19.680
Have you ever seen those?
Yes

0:41:19.680,0:41:25.249
And then people also use balls, like big,
you can get these balls that you can sit on

0:41:25.249,0:41:30.259
that your knees got to be lower than your
seat and they feel good if they sit at their

0:41:30.259,0:41:32.119
computer using these balls. Ballanced with
them

0:41:32.119,0:41:37.209
Yes Yes
That does make a great deal of sense.

0:41:37.209,0:41:41.449
It makes sense doesn't it.
It does to me

0:41:41.449,0:41:45.709
And also for the guys who are sitting a lot
it cuts off, it's not a good thing for the

0:41:45.709,0:41:48.940
prostate.
Hmmm that's true.

0:41:48.940,0:41:54.650
That's what got me thinking about it. I watched
a video from one of our past guests and he

0:41:54.650,0:41:58.900
started talking about sitting and the prostate
and said well, you know what I think I'm gonna

0:41:58.900,0:42:04.309
keep my prostate in a healthy position. I
just started standing because I don't wanna

0:42:04.309,0:42:09.920
mess around with this, you know.
I have had some feedback from people who have

0:42:09.920,0:42:16.920
got prostate problems, with frequent urination
and it's provided huge benefits to these people.

0:42:18.559,0:42:22.729
Really?
With Andrew Fletcher, Patrick Timpone http://oneraionetwork.com

0:42:22.729,0:42:27.209
http://inclinedbedtherapy.com
I am surprised we don't have more because

0:42:27.209,0:42:34.209
we had a lot of people who wrote in saying
they were going to do this. and I am surprised

0:42:34.660,0:42:38.829
we don't have more people writing in maybe
they are just not there this morning.

0:42:38.829,0:42:42.680
Yes, I have had a lot of problems with people
giving feedback.

0:42:42.680,0:42:46.359
Well people get shy, you know
Yes

0:42:46.359,0:42:53.359
Know the source, One Radio Network talk to
Patrick now Now, 8886636386 or email Patrick

0:42:57.849,0:43:02.099
at onreradionetwork.com
Inclined Bed Therapy with Andrew Fletcher

0:43:02.099,0:43:07.749
Patrick Timpone One Radio Network . com Inclined
Bed Therapy dot com.

0:43:07.749,0:43:14.749
I wonder if there is any research into inclined
bed therapy and sexuality and making babies

0:43:16.650,0:43:21.440
or anything have you seen any research there?
Yes

0:43:21.440,0:43:24.829
I just through that one out there, I don't
know what you were going to say?

0:43:24.829,0:43:28.619
In fact erectile dysfunction has been corrected
How is that?

0:43:28.619,0:43:35.619
Again it improves the blood pressure problem.
I had an embarrassing encounter with a good

0:43:39.869,0:43:46.869
friend who told me that she had a problem
and that to her delight it had actually been

0:43:48.239,0:43:55.239
corrected with the sloping bed.
But back to fertility, friend of ours, well

0:43:56.589,0:44:03.589
actually, I shouldn't say who it is really
but she was erm on IVF In-vitro fertilization

0:44:17.079,0:44:24.079
and it had no effect, she couldn't conceive.
And we convinced her to tilt the bed. And

0:44:27.519,0:44:33.359
she had given up having spent a fortune on
the IVF and she conceived.

0:44:33.359,0:44:35.880
Isn't that funny
Isn't that funny

0:44:35.880,0:44:40.069
Yes
I am just wondering if those sperms need to

0:44:40.069,0:44:45.519
know which way is up and which way is down?
Right, that's right

0:44:45.519,0:44:49.219
You know something as simple as the direction
required by gravity.

0:44:49.219,0:44:56.059
That is so hilarious and she conceived?
Yes, but not only did she conceive but she

0:44:56.059,0:45:00.729
kept the baby on an angle throughout the full
term of pregnancy, she had a great time, the

0:45:00.729,0:45:07.630
baby was born healthy and the baby was put
on an incline from birth as has happened with

0:45:07.630,0:45:13.769
my Granddaughter and now my new Granddaughter
who is now the youngest IBT'r that I know

0:45:13.769,0:45:20.769
of to date, she again has gone full term and
she was born 10 days early I think it was

0:45:22.499,0:45:29.499
and she is advanced for her age she is advanced.
She will rest with her hand underneath her

0:45:32.769,0:45:38.609
head like someone thinking and she will put
her thumb in her mouth each time without missing

0:45:38.609,0:45:43.559
so hand to mouth coordination is there right
from birth, this is from day 2.

0:45:43.559,0:45:47.279
Wow
Of being born, so hand to mouth coordination

0:45:47.279,0:45:51.890
from day 2.
So you actually recommend then to even put

0:45:51.890,0:45:58.890
the babies six inches up?
Erm, this this really touches er a bad chord

0:46:02.969,0:46:09.969
with me at the moment but erm, because of
erm I I had a bad experience with the erm

0:46:12.390,0:46:16.309
Foundation for the Study of Sudden Infant
Death Syndrome The Cot Death Foundation int

0:46:16.309,0:46:23.309
the UK. Now called the Lullaby Trust.
I was invited to the home of Dr Shireen Chantler,

0:46:25.339,0:46:31.249
who was then the senior research advisor for
the foundation and I was invited to her home

0:46:31.249,0:46:38.249
in London, travelled there at my own expense
and took my experimental tubes with me and

0:46:38.569,0:46:43.279
explained all about the circulation and why
we should keep babies on an angle and should

0:46:43.279,0:46:44.839
never place them flat.
Okay

0:46:44.839,0:46:50.559
And she agreed with me, she turned around
and said My God, she said, I think you have

0:46:50.559,0:46:55.890
solved it.
I said what do you mean by that Dr Chantler?

0:46:55.890,0:47:00.319
She said I think you have solved sudden infant
death syndrome and that meant that she had

0:47:00.319,0:47:04.249
agreed with me that babies shouldn't be put
on a flat bed.

0:47:04.249,0:47:10.019
And yet they carried on with their back to
sleep campaign and erm and encouraged mothers

0:47:10.019,0:47:13.910
to put their babies flat.
On their backs?

0:47:13.910,0:47:17.759
Yes
I actually believe that if we elevate the

0:47:17.759,0:47:22.410
cots erm, there would be no more sudden infant
death syndrome.

0:47:22.410,0:47:23.239
Really?
Yes

0:47:23.239,0:47:27.640
What is?
It doesn't sit very well with me, in fact

0:47:27.640,0:47:32.709
I went to see a solicitor to see if I could
sue the foundation.

0:47:32.709,0:47:36.789
Wow
To make them listen. He said there is no president

0:47:36.789,0:47:42.329
in law to make someone listen even if a child's
life is at risk.

0:47:42.329,0:47:47.779
And erm you know how these foundations are
Andrew that they get you know like the diabetes

0:47:47.779,0:47:54.779
they get to do it a certain way and it's very
hard for them to change their ideas.

0:47:58.329,0:48:04.880
I am glad that you mentioned diabetes Patrick.
Because a pilot study has been conducted in

0:48:04.880,0:48:10.119
an island called Pohnpei and it was conducted
by Tetaake Yee Ting

0:48:10.119,0:48:14.499
Forgive me Tetaaki if I have pronounced your
name wrong.

0:48:14.499,0:48:20.249
And it's just a small pilot project because
they have a huge problem with obesity and

0:48:20.249,0:48:24.219
diabetes on the island
Since these people have adopted the American

0:48:24.219,0:48:24.769
diet
Yeah

0:48:24.769,0:48:31.769
And 13 individuals volunteered as participants
12 of them had been diagnosed with diabetes

0:48:34.099,0:48:39.319
by their health service to be diabetic and
one diagnosed as being pre-diabetic.

0:48:39.319,0:48:46.259
All participants listed other problems including
back pain and oedema, difficulty sleeping,

0:48:46.259,0:48:52.119
frequent night time urination, snoring, morning
light headedness and some pain in joints and

0:48:52.119,0:48:56.989
all participants claimed to have noticed improvements
in all of these problems.

0:48:56.989,0:49:00.589
Wow
But what they also noticed was that the IBT

0:49:00.589,0:49:04.269
actually had lowered the sugar levels in the
patients.

0:49:04.269,0:49:05.749
Lowered their blood sugar levels?
Yes

0:49:05.749,0:49:11.900
What do you suppose that's about?
Well again, sugar is dense, so if we have

0:49:11.900,0:49:17.390
got the bed on an angle, then we are helping
the kidneys to actually flush out some of

0:49:17.390,0:49:22.930
the sugar, but also by being on an angle the
body is more alert, there is more going on,

0:49:22.930,0:49:29.749
your metabolism has increased, so we are also
more able to burn up some sugar, so it's a

0:49:29.749,0:49:36.749
double wham effect.
Two of the participants, their blood sugar

0:49:36.839,0:49:43.839
actually went up instead of down and Tetaaki
investigated it and one of the participants

0:49:46.039,0:49:52.979
was not on an angled bed and had been over
indulging at a wedding for 2 days and the

0:49:52.979,0:49:58.709
other one was not on an angled bed and had
been over indulging at a funeral for 2 days.

0:49:58.709,0:50:03.189
Huh even though those sweets.
We have had questions from listeners about

0:50:03.189,0:50:09.839
those foam wedges you put under the mattress,
is that the same thing as raising your bed?

0:50:09.839,0:50:15.199
No I wouldn't go with the foam, first of all
it's expensive, foam makes you sweat and we

0:50:15.199,0:50:20.519
want to try and avoid that. But the other
thing is that the weight of your shoulders

0:50:20.519,0:50:25.660
will actually press down into the foam. Yes
you get that to some degree with any mattress

0:50:25.660,0:50:32.660
but I should imagine that the foam would amplify
the problem.

0:50:33.890,0:50:36.849
You wouldn't be getting the full angle.
What do you do for people, what ideas do you

0:50:36.849,0:50:43.359
have with people that had bed's that when
they raised it up they felt like the bed was

0:50:43.359,0:50:47.469
gonna kinda like collapse? Do you just have
to get a stronger bed?

0:50:47.469,0:50:54.469
No, what can be done there is you can buy
a piece of plywood, a sheet of plywood 8 feet

0:50:55.369,0:51:02.369
by 4 feet. Or you may need two sheets of plywood
and cut a strip off to actually extend it

0:51:02.949,0:51:08.150
to the width of the mattress.
Pop that under the mattress and then put some

0:51:08.150,0:51:14.989
wooden cross beams one six inches at the top
and a 3 inch in the middle and drop the plywood

0:51:14.989,0:51:20.109
over the top of the cross beams and sit the
mattress on the top of that, job done.

0:51:20.109,0:51:25.049
Oh so just support the bed so you don;t have
to get a new bed.

0:51:25.049,0:51:27.239
Yes
And what that does it takes the load off the

0:51:27.239,0:51:31.299
corners because it's the joints that are the
problem.

0:51:31.299,0:51:37.099
You can also buy some strengthening joints,
these are available I have seen them on Ebay

0:51:37.099,0:51:41.289
which are just like a metal bracket that you
just screw onto the existing frame and those

0:51:41.289,0:51:45.789
can beef up the joints.
Ohhh that might be eaiser.

0:51:45.789,0:51:50.890
Yes
So it's a joint issue it's not the centre

0:51:50.890,0:51:55.209
it's not the middle of the bed that's a problem,
the joints don't take that pressure.

0:51:55.209,0:52:01.089
That's right, because your weight has shifted
as I explained earlier, your weight is moving

0:52:01.089,0:52:06.489
towards the base of the bed, what that's doing
is it is loading or stressing those joints

0:52:06.489,0:52:11.989
which are designed to take a flat weight.
So you are trying to twist the headboard and

0:52:11.989,0:52:17.189
the footboard over by sleeping on that inclined
bed.

0:52:17.189,0:52:19.680
Okay
If you have a metal frame, that should be

0:52:19.680,0:52:22.189
fine.
Yes, for a wooden frame that can't take it

0:52:22.189,0:52:26.479
you just put some joints and that might just
do the whole thing.

0:52:26.479,0:52:26.959
Yes

0:52:26.959,0:52:30.640
Here is for Andrew Fletcher, this is from
Cathline

0:52:30.640,0:52:34.420
In Iowa
We started the Inclined Bed Therapy in July,

0:52:34.420,0:52:38.349
my husband is doing great with it, less pain
in his legs and his knees.

0:52:38.349,0:52:43.160
I on the other hand have more restless sleep.
Does he have any feedback from people that

0:52:43.160,0:52:49.739
might have less results such as detox and
take a longer period of time?

0:52:49.739,0:52:56.739
Yes, I would imagine that she could be detoxing
but she could also might be getting a little

0:52:57.910,0:53:04.910
bit too warm, because my Wife's feet, she
used to put her feet on me and they would

0:53:07.279,0:53:12.819
be freezing cold, for an hour and a half,
really bad problem with circulation and now

0:53:12.819,0:53:17.890
she sleeps with her feet out of the bed because
they get too warm. So it might be the case

0:53:17.890,0:53:24.890
of just removing a little bit of the bedding.
But certainly there is a definite detox going

0:53:25.930,0:53:30.349
on there.
If you think about heavy metals we have talked

0:53:30.349,0:53:35.229
about heavy metals, mercury and lead in the
blood and also in the brain.

0:53:35.229,0:53:42.150
It stands to sense that if you tilt the bed
it is going to be migrating towards the kidneys.

0:53:42.150,0:53:45.259
Yes and the kidneys work better when the bed
is raised

0:53:45.259,0:53:48.719
Yes
And so do you think has it been your experience

0:53:48.719,0:53:55.390
that this raising the head of the bed things
just keep improving? As in the months and

0:53:55.390,0:53:58.979
the years go on?
Well it certainly seems to be the case.

0:53:58.979,0:54:04.079
Does it?
Yes, Obviously can you improve on feeling

0:54:04.079,0:54:07.359
fit and well?
Exactly, we can all there's always another

0:54:07.359,0:54:14.359
step.
Yes, one lady who is a nurse, who is on the

0:54:21.239,0:54:28.239
Facebook group, she has made a comment, she
said she's a nurse by the way who works in

0:54:31.420,0:54:35.609
an accident and emergency ward in America
I think.

0:54:35.609,0:54:42.609
And she said that us health professionals
lead a very unhealthy lifestyle, we eat all

0:54:42.969,0:54:49.670
the wrong foods, we are on our feet most of
the time, she said "We all need to sleep on

0:54:49.670,0:54:56.039
an angled bed". So I said, well yes that's
great but so do the patients,

0:54:56.039,0:54:57.900
Yeah
And she agrees

0:54:57.900,0:55:04.900
Well you know it would be great, it would
be easy enough to raise the head of the bed.

0:55:05.959,0:55:06.849
Here is from Bridget

0:55:06.849,0:55:13.259
Hey I have been using the inclined mattress
I hope it will help my feet, I am still having

0:55:13.259,0:55:18.799
tingling feet, it seems to be helping, I do
know though that it has helped my veins in

0:55:18.799,0:55:25.079
my legs, they look much better. I don't have
bad ones but I did have more and more coming

0:55:25.079,0:55:29.679
up because I am on my feet a lot.
They are now a lot better. I have to sleep

0:55:29.679,0:55:34.929
away from home a couple of nights a week or
so and I am wondering if it messes up to go

0:55:34.929,0:55:40.119
back to a flat mattress every once in a while
I also want to ask about making love, it's

0:55:40.119,0:55:42.839
a bit different going uphill.

0:55:42.839,0:55:47.349
Yeah well, good luck with that one Andrew
Thanks for that one Patrick

0:55:47.349,0:55:52.769
Ill give that one to Andrew, I'm not messing
around with that one.

0:55:52.769,0:55:59.769
I suppose a footboard would be a great idea
to give your husband purchase.

0:56:00.719,0:56:07.719
Don't really have a problem with again you
get used to being on an angled bed

0:56:10.759,0:56:13.589
Sure
Great news about the veins

0:56:13.589,0:56:17.609
That's nice
Yes that's added a little bit of weight to

0:56:17.609,0:56:24.609
what we discussed in the first interview.
I am surprised that a lot more people haven't

0:56:24.989,0:56:30.769
come forward because you know there have been
so many people who have contacted me and told

0:56:30.769,0:56:34.219
me what has happened to them and that they
heard it on the radio.

0:56:34.219,0:56:41.219
We have had lots and lots and lots of comments
on the 
comment page after the previous show. That's

0:56:49.789,0:56:54.559
been real good.
We are getting more in now.

0:56:54.559,0:56:58.059
Here's one from Lee Helen
My back feels so much better, I am a dental

0:56:58.059,0:57:01.309
hygienist so I feel a lot of stress in my
shoulders.

0:57:01.309,0:57:07.179
My chiropractor noticed that my shoulder was
not as tight and my massage therapist told

0:57:07.179,0:57:13.929
me my back looked balanced
Lot's of love from Paula in Oregon and Lee

0:57:13.929,0:57:18.009
Helen
I just have someone knocking at the door Patrick

0:57:18.009,0:57:19.699
Go ahead
You gotta leave?

0:57:19.699,0:57:26.519
No No
Go ahead and get that and take care of it

0:57:26.519,0:57:27.130
Andrew
Thank you

0:57:27.130,0:57:33.619
Okay
Yeah I just like the way it feels, I just

0:57:33.619,0:57:39.160
I just feel I don't know more balanced, more
comfortable, just feels better.

0:57:39.160,0:57:46.099
Especially after talking with Andrew for these
two times I am never going back

0:57:46.099,0:57:49.650
I say never I am never going to do it.
That's alight, I was just telling folks that

0:57:49.650,0:57:56.650
the way I did it I found some really cool
books, some health books and I just went and

0:57:58.029,0:58:03.630
measured, I just got a combination of books
that were exactly six inches and some bigger

0:58:03.630,0:58:10.630
like er you know more an almanac type books
that I got with health. And nutrition and

0:58:11.799,0:58:13.759
I thought that would be fun to put those under
there.

0:58:13.759,0:58:16.809
Yeah
I don't put anything spooky under there and

0:58:16.809,0:58:22.719
that's what I did and it works great.
And I was able to do it myself and my bed

0:58:22.719,0:58:27.859
is pretty heavy, I just lifted it up and slipped
them under there and it's exactly six inches

0:58:27.859,0:58:34.859
on each side. It is probably important to
make sure you get six inches on each side.

0:58:40.729,0:58:43.999
Yes

0:58:43.999,0:58:50.209
I started using inclined bed therapy 3 weeks
ago today for the first 19 days I raised a

0:58:50.209,0:58:54.890
futon and I really felt something changing,
I felt more pain at times and my feet swelled

0:58:54.890,0:58:59.400
for a couple of days. Finally for the last
two nights I was able to get my bed raised

0:58:59.400,0:59:06.199
at exactly the proper height permanently.
First night in my bed caused more pain, probably

0:59:06.199,0:59:09.739
because of the different mattress.
This morning after the second night in bed

0:59:09.739,0:59:14.619
I have been moving much easier. I have been
diagnosed with M.S.

0:59:14.619,0:59:18.719
But with your help I realised it was mercury
poisoning.

0:59:18.719,0:59:22.679
And have done a lot of other things to improve
my physical symptoms however I still have

0:59:22.679,0:59:26.660
a long way to go.
As far as pain in the lower back and legs

0:59:26.660,0:59:30.209
are concerned, I am still having quite a bit
of pain in the inclined bed, but I can see

0:59:30.209,0:59:34.449
a slight difference every day.
I will continue to keep my bed inclined from

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this day on.

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Excellent, Excellent
I have a theory on what is happening with

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people with multiple sclerosis. I believe
that the circulation through the cerebrospinal

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fluid and through the myelin is making the
myelin respond better. The myelin is liquid

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crystal, it behaves similar to the LCD screens
in computers. Providing it remains in its

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liquid state it has all the right properties
to send messages too and fro, but what happens

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is it somehow stagnates and causes lesions
so it then becomes visible under an MRI scan.

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So if we can keep this circulation going all
the indicators are, you know I have done a

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lot of work for people with multiple sclerosis
and we have had some phenomenal results as

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well. These lesions I believe could actually
be resolved.

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One of our longest standing ladies with ms,
she doesn't feel that she has MS any more

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and indeed her neurologist has told her that
she doesn't need him any more.

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13 after the hour Andrew Fletcher Inclined
Bed Therapy Dot Com

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Here is an email

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I am using 3 six inch boxes and I have them
at the head end of my mattress, how far down

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should they be?
How far down from the top and middle should

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they be?
I am not sure what she is saying here?

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Tell her exactly what she needs to do.
She just needs either books or bricks, blocks

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of wood cut at six inches, so she needs to
raise the head end of the bed six inches,

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if the bed needs supporting in the centre,
I.E. it comes in two boxes, then she needs

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to support the join in the middle and pop
the castors off the bottom and that prevents

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the bed from rocking off the blocks of wood.

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Oh sorry I miss read, I think she is doing
it right. I am using 3 six inch boxes, I have

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them at the head of my mattress.
Oh Ok

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That's what I said what you want right
Yes

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But she said how far down should they be?
They should be right at the head.

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Right at the head end yes.
Ok That's what she meant, I miss read that

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sorry.
Yeah and they shouldn't be at the top or the

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middle at all.
There shouldn't be any need but if there is

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some sagging on the bed, because obviously
some of these beds have legs in the middle

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so those will need choking up as well.
Yeah but she's doing the right thing.

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Yes
Yeah some people I don't know if you need

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three but three is good yeah.

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Could I just add a little bit in?
Sure

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Remember I said with sudden infant deaths
if we tilt the babies cots, then there is

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a chance that the baby could end up with the
head down and feet up. So someone suggested

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that you get a pair of dads boxer shorts and
tie the two ends to the sides of the bed / cot

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and then drop the baby inside the boxer shorts
then there is no chance of the baby slipping

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down.

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David Wolfe teaches the opposite writes John.
Sleeping with your legs elevated is optimal

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he says because whenever we stand up adrenalin
is released to allow man to walk upright,

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this is how our remote ancestors were able
to walk upright.

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Releasing adrenalin so he always sleeps with
his legs elevated, he says de-adrenalising

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when you stop the release of adrenalin while
sleeping with the legs elevated, your body

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can relax and repair itself, which you cannot
do while the legs are elevated. He is just

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contradicting himself.
I'm gonna go with David Wolfe on this one.

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Do you have any comment?
Yes, again if we go back to NASA's experiments

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with beds, they have encouraged and spent
countless amount of money getting people to

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sleep with their heads down and their feet
up.

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Only to examine how much they deteriorate.
By Confining them to bed so in the long term

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you know it's quite damaging but even in the
short term it has been shown to be damaging.

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In fact this used to be called Trendelenburgh
and it has been shied away from now because

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the literature is stating that it doesn't
have any efficacy at all.

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And how many years have you been doing this?
20 years

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And the results of people with their head
up have been how much I mean a lot?

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Phenomenal results
So it's counter-intuitive what David is talking

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about.
Improvements in Eyesight, you mentioned you

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eyesight has anything changed there Patrick?
No, nothing yet but I am hoping so.

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So it's your bed you can do what you want.

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So we can just raise the mattress of the bed
write's an emailer, raising the whole upper

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side seems difficult and a little dangerous
regarding the stability of the whole bed but,

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we only need to raise the mattress to reach
the effect right?

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No you wanna raise the legs right Andrew.
Or if they want to raise the mattress as we

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said is to make a wooden wedge to fit underneath
the mattress.

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And that will take away any risk of the bed
falling apart.

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Oh, your ok with that but not the foam though?
I don't think the foam is the way to go to

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be honest.
Hmm

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There are inflatable wedges as well but my
Wife and I tried one of these and it was a

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bit of an experience to say the least.
I wouldn't complicate it folks, just put some

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six inch blocks or books under your bed legs
and unless your bed is not going to stand

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that kind of stress it works great.

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He says maybe Andrew and people know about
this already, you need to contact directly

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to a government and the media instead of a
single foundation in order to promote it,

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then earn real support, maybe even replace
the word therapy so it can be accepted more

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widely and easily as a normal natural thing
to sleep.

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Well good luck with governments
Yes

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What they tend to do is to refer you back
to the Universities and the Universities look

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in the literature and say well there is nothing
in our literature that says this will work

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so it can't possibly work and you just keep
going round like washing in a tumble dryer.

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You don't seem to get any further, although
you do tend to get dried out a little.

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Yeah and the Universities, love them, they
are supported by the pharmaceutical companies

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and the big corporations and that's where
they get their funding.

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Indeed they do yes
They are just not gonna go there.

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Just call it what it is, it is what it is.
It's planet Earth You know, sorry but it is

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what it is.
We had an interesting comment, do you remember

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me mentioning Joan Vernikos?
Sure, because we have had her on the show

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as well.
Yes

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Well Joan passed on the interview to her nephew
who left a comment on Youtube and the Nephew

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is Robert Taylor
This is what he wrote:

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Andrew, my Aunty Dr Joan Vernikos, showed
me your video, re: X NASA extraordinair. which

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she is. I plan to pass on your information
to my patients here in Canada. Amazing video

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Thank you Robert
And what video was that?

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The video I made of our interview.
Yours truly talking to the screen. I thought

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well that was a great way of sharing your
station with the Youtube audience,

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Yes well do it with this one too, put it up
there because people find stuff on Youtube.

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God knows how they find it.

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I am getting in late here says Alexandria
Just got home, I started Inclined Bed Therapy

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in July and being a student of Ballet and
living with hard wood and tile for decades

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I have trouble with my feet burning and tingling
at the end of the day.

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The first night it was greatly diminished
and continues to improve I have a five inch

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incline, hope that's enough. The eight inch
risers were too much.

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Well she just needs to add another inch, to
six inches right?

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Yes
Whatever she is comfortable with.

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Do you think it would make a difference with
the extra inch?

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Yeah I think it would.
Because you've done the science.

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Well yes
So there is a difference between five inches

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and six inches?
Well I have a friend who sleeps on what looks

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like the North Face of the Eiger. I don't
know how she manages to get to sleep but she

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swears by it. This lady would wake up every
morning and her hands would be paralysed.

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Again another nurse.
And she has a condition called psoriatic arthritis

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which eats into the joints affects the skin
and she's getting on a bit, she is no spring

1:09:49.839,1:09:56.090
chicken. She confessed to me that in 1995
she was almost ready for a wheelchair and

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she has been great ever since.

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Hi here is an email from Linda
We have been sleeping on an inclined bed for

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the last 3 years because we really love it,
it seams to have got rid of my sleep apnoea,

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my veins seem to be improving but have not
gone away completely yet. I have trouble sleeping

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on a flat bed now.
It was funny because we had a bed with legs

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under the middle of the bed and when we put
the risers under it it was raised much higher.

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Both of us ended up at the foot of the bed
with our feet on the floor.

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We discovered that it has been raised 18 inches.
It's a good job we didn't have satin sheets.

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Love the show Linda

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That's funny
Yes we are getting some good feedback.

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Yes it takes folks a little while, let's see
if I got another one here.

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Could I just say thank you to all those who
have given us feedback, I really appreciate

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this.

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Here is one.

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The inclined bed has tipped the scale for
me, my body was stuck it improved almost everything,

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digestion, back, sleep, I need less energy
I have more, is there a reason my eyes seem

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to be more sensitive to sun light?

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Wow
That's interesting.

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I have not heard that one before
For me it could mean that they are improving

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It could well be that more light is getting
into the eyes.

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Yes my vision has not changed yet so but I
have only been doing it, when were you on

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what month?
Well it's been three months ago and you didn't

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start for two weeks.
No I didn't start for two weeks so a couple

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of months.

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Bridget writes back I have my box under my
mattress is that ok? I just heard you say

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that it needs to be under the legs.
I have a old heavy antique bed, very heavy

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so could not raise the legs.
So she has just raised under her mattress.

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Yeah, not ideal
It's not ideal, Ok so what you do is get a

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neighbour get yourself six inches and get
a neighbour to lift up the bed while you put

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the right?
Or even use a trolley jack, perhaps you could

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borrow a car jack?
But not as good?

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No
Not as good as under the bed legs, so you

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are going to get better improvements if you
do it under the leg?

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Yes just figure it and get someone to lift
up the bed, put the six inch blocks under

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there and do the other side and you will be
done in two minutes.

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Here's one

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Due to the style and position of my bed, I
have not fully implemented the six inches

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of incline, but for now I have achieved 3
inches by putting an object under the edge

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of my box spring, so far it has been a positive
experience, the very next morning I felt my

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nose was a bit clearer and my skeletal frame
well aligned, no morning stiffness and the

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very slight spider vein on my left has diminished
as well. I definitely plan to implement the

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full six inches.
Great

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I have a little challenge for you here, you
will find this interesting Patrick. If you

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lay flat on the floor what we have experienced
is that our head feels as if it is going down

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through the floor after being on an incline.
Really?

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Yeah
That's interesting.

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Here is one from Mickey
We inclined our bed and after 3 weeks I developed

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a haemorrhoid. I put a potato up there over
night and it went away and back on the inclined

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bed doing better.

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A potato? I have never heard of that one,
boy we hear it all here.

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Well I don't know do you think that could
cause the haemorrhoid

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Could have been a coincidence?
haemorrhoid again is a varicose vein, I would

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imagine he obviously experienced it or she
did.

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There's usually no coincidence so it could
have been.

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Yeah
But haemorrhoids are also detoxification in

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a sense.
Ok, but the potato?

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Well I don't know
Well I am trying to picture that one.

1:14:31.650,1:14:34.989
Evidently that's a cure for haemorrhoids putting
a potato up your bum?

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I've never heard that.
I've never heard that, it's a first one for

1:14:38.770,1:14:42.619
me too.
But we hear a lot of strange things with people

1:14:42.619,1:14:47.679
putting a lot of strange things up their bums
here on One Radio Network.

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Oxygen and coffee you know.
Yes

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It wouldn't, it seems counter intuitive isn't
a haemorrhoid a circulation issue?

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Yes it is
And it should improve with an inclined bed

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and does improve we know that.
So I'm not sure about that one.

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Maybe the initial shift of fluids
Yeah could be.

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But if a potato made it go away I guess we
are all good, I'll bet it was fun too.

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It's 27, I guess we should go now, this was
good.

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I have enjoyed it. Getting some feedback
We have had another interesting report which

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I can't mention on air because the guy wishes
to remain anonymous.

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Can't you do an anonymous report?
I suppose we could.

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What he has reported back is that he has a
congenital which means it's from birth a problem

1:15:53.349,1:15:59.139
with potassium levels in his body and it's
a bit like the goats that fall over, have

1:15:59.139,1:16:03.590
you ever seen those goats that fall over?
I haven't seen a falling goat.

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Yes, well there is a problem there, I forget
the name of the condition but he has noticed

1:16:09.719,1:16:16.039
huge improvements again this is another congenital
problem that requires further investigation.

1:16:16.039,1:16:22.909
And he is trying to encourage a few people
that he knows to give it a test. But he has

1:16:22.909,1:16:26.590
got nothing but positive things to say about
this.

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He has tremendous problems with muscle stiffness.
I.E it will take him six steps to get his

1:16:33.429,1:16:37.679
muscles working so that he doesn't fall over
and now that doesn't seem to be so much of

1:16:37.679,1:16:43.289
a problem. He still get's some stiffness but
it is no where near the same as it was before,

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it's no where near as aggressive as it was
before and he has noticed that he is able

1:16:48.110,1:16:53.489
to walk up and down stairs a lot easier as
well so again huge improvements in something

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that the guy has had from birth.
Excellent

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Well Andrew you are a pleasure to talk to,
his website http://inclinedbedtherapy.com.

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Pass on these links, this is good stuff to
everyone that you care about and then when

1:17:06.780,1:17:13.780
you try it go on to our webpage underneath
the show and put in the comments section there

1:17:14.300,1:17:20.369
so that every body can here your experience.
Good bad or indifferent to Andrew Fletcher's

1:17:20.369,1:17:27.159
experiment and discovery Inclined Bed Therapy
for the last 20 years.

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Andrew thanks a lot.
Thank you Patrick

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Sat hi to the Queen mum when you see her.
I will try my best

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Tell her we love her and say hi to all of
the Scots who are going to see if they can

1:17:37.780,1:17:41.119
become Mel Gibson in Braveheart tomorrow let's
see.

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I was just thinking about that potato, if
she had a string vest it could come out as

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chips.
Yes chips, fish and chips.

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Ok Andrew we will see you later.
Ok bye Patrick

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Andrew Fletcher,
Potato up the bum, ohh my

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Ok it's exactly 11.30 central time, that was
an hour and a half of great information.

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Stephanie Seneff I love you all very much
Thank you mucho

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I think we are going to be talking about cancer
tomorrow.

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Thanks to Sharon for setting up people like
Andrew and Stephanie Seneff

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See you all tomorrow at http://oneradionetwork,com