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1 year 7 months ago #846 by Andrew
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Welcome to my pet hate about IBT. (Lack of Feedback) Yes your right about being questioned on every step you take and every move you advise on. But this is a healthy response and I welcome it. And who knows it may eventually lead them to critique their own doctors advice.

You may want to consider the polarity in which you sleep. Currently experimenting a change from sleeping West South West to East North East and from night one it is definitely very different. Bed seems even more comfortable, Hitting the pillow and both of us are asleep within 15 minutes. I have also switched to mostly sleeping on right side but I do rotate.

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1 year 7 months ago - 1 year 7 months ago #849 by Ozone
Ozone replied the topic: Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT) Worse before better
Interesting about the sleep polarity. Might be reversed for Southern Hemisphere though!! This one I have spent years on...remember
I am a dowser? We can detect all sorts of energies underground...sometimes moving your bed by luck moves you away from a line whereupon you suddenly sleep better. A mate of mine invented a sleep system called EarthPulse using pulsed magnetic fields..works quite well but gives me a slight feeling of 'artificial' sleep so I don't use it. I sleep earthed ....which also keeps us connected to earth energies. Lots of research has been done here. I also cancel out dirty electricity in the mains....lots of research here as well. There are many many areas....but to incline is the most powerful take it from me. I have to Imagine if you have heavy geopathic stress then that would have some detrimental effect even if inclined...to some degree. Energy from underground and magnetism affects our bodies quite a bit....I think to incline overpowers the detrimental effects....which is why it's the simplest approach.
See your countrymans page..
www.Rolfgordon.co.uk
In fact....at the end of his webpage he offers a free remote dowse...write to him with a sketch and I'll bet you...by moving your bed you got out of a line area!
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1 year 7 months ago #855 by Andrew
Andrew replied the topic: Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT) Worse before better
Yes, dowsing have tried it with two metal rods and found it works over water, don't ask me how but it does.
What we have experienced changing the bed around to face the opposite direction is we are sleeping better than ever.

A few years ago I placed a powerful magnet under a bottle of water and left it there for 2 days. I drank the water and very shortly after felt drunk, head swimming room spinning, balance poor. I thought wow I won't be doing that again.

Since we have changed our bed around the same thing has happened to me. I was under the car trying to drain the oil and I felt really odd as if I was in a drunken stupor. On standing up it quickly resolved and I was back to normal.
My wife also complained about the same problem, though not as bad as myself.

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1 year 7 months ago #856 by Ozone
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Quite interesting how you seem to have developed a keen sense for subtle energies....no doubt its partly due to being inclined for twenty years!! Don't worry we know precisely how the dowsing works! It's like a reflex action. But most cannot dowse for other energies apart from water...try dowsing near your bed for " negative energy" or something and see what happens. Interestingly, Ayurvedic medicine recommends sleep EastWest...and totally speaks against NothSouth orientations. I still think the bed has repositioned geopathic stress effects....rather than a planetary magnetic field though.
I have to tell you about my tonsils. Since I lived in the UK in the early nineties my tonsils enlarged. With the occasional pain....over the years have tried a lot of stuff....they didn't budge. Cleanses, trampoline, ozone, peroxide, zappers, orgonite, severe exercise, antibiotics, zeolite, MMS, MSM, probiotics, geopathic stress, dirty electricity, earthing, etc plus twenty more. Now I feel the throat and tonsils are 'alive' as my circulation gets kickstarted there! The worse one even started making tonsilloliths.....wow! All along my issue was a clogged throat lymph system...probably due to lesions in my veins or whatever. Interesting how absolutely nothing moved it except now the third month of IBT. This is more significant than I can put into words. Flying out of the country for a week or so....then I should have my first batch of AIDS patients then to start.
Otherwise apart from my old nurse friend who gives tremendous feedback....other friends seem not to want to discuss IBT anymore. Another group I informed seemed too caught up in their own ideas. Quite interesting life.

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1 year 7 months ago #857 by Ozone
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Question is though Andrew...are you dizzy because of the new sleeping position or because of lying flat under the vehicle. Many people sleeping flat lie under vehicles without feeling dizzy??? Or maybe we just didn't realize and acknowledge it. Being inclined for many years should have made you stronger I reckon...not weak such that a minute of being flat knackers you. We cannot disput the benefits of IBT..but I would hate to think our hearts rest too much and get weaker such that now being flat is worse than before we were inclined!! I reckon something else is the matter actually there...and you would probably be not as healthy as you are now if you hadn't been inclined all these years...but the causal agent is still there. Jus a thought.

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1 year 7 months ago #859 by Andrew
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Getting under a vehicle is something I do frequently. Merc is on the drive waiting for diodes to fix mig welder before I can weld it for the MOT, so I was under the car grinding off the sills etc and cutting plates to weld in weeks before we changed our bed around. No problems there. It is something you have to experience to understand it. There is zero chance of heart atrophy or indeed muscle atrophy using IBT, in fact muscle atrophy has been reversed using IBT. Your aids patient will bare this out in due course.
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1 year 7 months ago #860 by Ozone
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Had forgotten about that MOT thing...brings back memories!! Reassuring then...it's probably just regular science training causing me to question something so simple it kills most of our medicine of thousands of years. The Egyptians still registered illness though, even inclined, and I found they didn't maintain IBT for some reason, the later epochs sort of discarded it. Interesting part of my research...emotional illness. Hope you find out what is causing that. I find if I sleep not earthed, even on incline, there is a subtle change in sleep quality. There earthing if done correctly enhances it a bit. But I am still in awe of IBT...nothing compares. In fact next week I will try 7 inches just for the hell of it...maybe speed things up a bit. I am following the latest testimonials closely. Gratifying that I am part of something bringing so much comfort to people.

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1 year 7 months ago #866 by Ozone
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I have several dowsing jobs lined up....and this time IBT will feature strongly. Exciting! In Johannesburg where I visited a doctor friend of mine doing IV ozone....many patients instantly became interested in IBT and will try it TODAY they said! Also saw a couple that started it two months ago...they seem happier and more energetic...but these ones won't admit and say there is not much benefit. So I suggested they return to flat bed...oh no..they will stay inclined. Amazing humans,
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1 year 7 months ago #868 by Andrew
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It's amazing how people refuse to believe what is before them, or acknowledge the results they experience. They are more than happy to receive the benefits from IBT but when it comes to providing feedback, which is very important to us, it's a different matter. I had a chuckle when you said you asked them to try flat bed resat and they refused outright. :whistle:
I have said this on many occasions and have convinced a few to go back to flat. They soon put their beds back up lol.

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1 year 7 months ago #872 by Ozone
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I used to get really worked up about that phenomena. With energy work we see a lot of it...I have had people get nausea so to the point of vomiting...twenty minutes after adjusting their energy. I have seen people put on an earthcalm resonator and get their color back in a few minutes...then go on to adamantly deny any felt benefit. I had to read psychoanalysis almost to understand the phenomenon...and the best explanation of course came from Reich emotional plague. Poor people have stuck energy in their musculature...and anything that moves it ..literally becomes like someone trying to put a hand into their trousers...they run for dear life. Now it doesn't cook my noddles as much when people do a runner...but I am amused and love trapping them so they maybe lose their panic. Obviously IBT is moving our energy big time. All that enhanced circulation...I wish my tai chi master was here to try it, he left for Angola a few years back. His feedback was always immaculate. Hard not to get annoyed though...when I see that look in their eyes...almost like if they admit benefit it means they are inferior to me or something....why in Africa we adopt the mystical shaman approach....then they sort of acknowledge better. But generally here the less educated the better they admit benefit.

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1 year 7 months ago #896 by Ozone
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Have several new patients on incline, advanced Parkinson's man, old lady with kidney cancer, old man post heart attack and weak, old lady with recurrent nightmares, plus a few more. The Parkinson's patients speech is already improving after a few days, the heart attack victim apparently doesn't want to leave his bed now...and is getting more 'cheeky' his family report!! Nightmares have stopped already in the old woman! Kidney cancer patient reports much much better sleep. Will continue monitoring, and will put a few more near death AIDS patients on incline to see how it goes. Personally STILL experiencing some deep detoxing even in the fourth month!! A powerful modality indeed, for what else can continue curing one continuously into the future!!

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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #906 by Paul
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Another mystery solved - my blood pressure is lower for the first time in 15 years. Its around 130 / 90 now instead of its past 150 / 100 and a whopping 165 / 110. I wondered a couple of months ago why it was suddenly lower than any time even during last year, especially when I was doing all sorts of things for my health. Still the IBT did not register at that time even with this lol.

Reading my diary with IBT in mind is starting to reveal more and more, just goes to show you should never rely on memory and always write things down. I also note that I only raised my bed to the full 6 inches in early July 2015, and not April like I thought before in one of my previous posts. July also was the month I noticed big differences in my Psoriasis too.
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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #909 by Ozone
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Wonderful progress Paul...you are onto it! Our immune systems are quite complex apparently....Gallo the immunologist said what we know about the immune system is less than what Columbus knew about America when he sailed!! But then...our bodies are complex...and I have to say all known medical trials at present become obsolete once you introduce IBT....all their studies are on people sleeping flat by the way. So we are all pioneers in this field!! My family and I are all coming down with a strange flu...after my daughter slept flat for a day slightly over a week ago. But according to my knowledge...a flu isn't always a sickness...I.e. Your immune system can suddenly decide to kill off large parasites..and this can cause you to get fluey for a few days. The immune system also has cycles upon cycles of activity that sync with the seasons and moon and nature...something discovered by DrKoch. So, the only sure thing is once on incline...one will experience cascade upon cascade of action...mainly repair and restarting of systems that had gone dormant.....also note what the chiropracts say....most illness has a spinal nerve component! IBT handles that as well...without us even knowing or realizing like you said! I have not found a better therapy. I believe here where I live it's going to change our whole country.
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1 year 6 months ago #939 by Paul
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Forgot to mention about my couple days or so with that more extreme angle of 6.11 degrees I used by elevating to 8 inches. NOT GOOD! At first I thought it was okay as stopped all pain but I think it was just a fluke. Next night it didn't agree with me at all and had a bad sleep, sore shoulders, dull ache on lower right rib too.

When lowered it down again to 5 degrees it was a much noted improvement - didn't even want to get up :D

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1 year 6 months ago #942 by Ozone
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Quite interesting that. Probably due to the torsion forces Andrew mentioned. Have an inverter....few minutes on it sometimes even made me nauseas! How I wish I had found out about IBT just after Andrew made his discovery.

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